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December 8, 2005

Mailing list discussion: internet or not at the next Mind Camp?

mindcamp1.0, chat, travel — by TDavid @ 1:42 pm PST

Those on the Seattle Mind Camp mailing list (should be all prior attendees) there’s a somewhat active discussion currently happening about whether having an internet connection at the event is more disruptive than it’s worth. While I’m not going to quote from the list on who is saying what, etc I am finding the discussion ironic.

Mind Camp 1.0 video documentary

First of all, any internet-related camp, meeting or event needs internet. It’s not an option or even up for discussion from my point of view. Not having good connectivity at Mind Camp 1.0 hurt the event overall. How can you invite a bunch of people from the internet and talk about sharing of information, exploration and ideas without internet connectivity?

An elitist suggestion was made on the list that more “geniuses” might come if the bar was raised and attendees were somehow checked, filtering out bloggers and less desirable types. Huh? So somebody cannot be a genius and a blogger? If attracting a genius or two means banning bloggers from attending and reporting on the events for the rest of the world that can’t attend, then I’ll most definitely pass on Mind Camp 2.0. Stephen Hawking isn’t going to come to Mind Camp in the near future and if he did, I’m sure even he would want internet connectivity.

Bizarre.

On a more positive note, Hidden Frame Productions put together this video documentary of the event. It captures many things that happened, but missed Jack William Bell and I jamming. How could that not have been a pivotal event in Mind Camp? (joking, of course). Jack was good, I was the joke.

Unrelated
There has also been some discussion about the value of the backchannel (IRC) during conferences. Mena Trott challenging Ben Metcalfe (using the IRC name DotBen) during her presentation at Les Blogs on being civil, it seems Ben called BS on Mena’s speech. This message appeared on the large screen monitor behind Mena as she was speaking, which raised her ire. Mena dropped the f-bomb on stage. Classy use during a discussion in civility. Hey, I don’t mind the F word and use it almost every week … but during a discussion on civility? That’s funny.

There is a somewhat grainy video [menavsben.mov] of the confrontation which apparently ended in a meeting afterwards to patch things up. Ben didn’t have a problem with Six Apart as Mena seemed concerned about, he had a problem with her trying to tell people how they should behave. From what I saw and read about the situation, score one for Ben. Civility and the internet? It’s a nice pipe dream. The melting pot has never more culturally alive than a quick stroll to any busy social place on the web. I do think somebody should mash up Mena saying the F-word though at least six times, apart.

I think an IRC channel where people are saying all the things they can’t say because they don’t have a microphone is a useful, valuable part of the conversation. I’m used to that environment because during our weekly radio show we have an IRC channel and sometimes it can result in some really excellent and useful sideroads to conversations. The listeners in the IRC also call BS on me when I’m wrong about something. I like that immediate and live feedback. It can be awkward to get used to at first and yes perhaps even seem disruptive, but overall it is more valuable than listening to a speech and then going out into the hall and having a conversation about how much the speaker sucked.

It’s also a way to keep the speakers honest. Go ahead and call BS on a bogus spiel, I think that’s healthy and useful dialogue. Listen, we are spending our time to attend these events and that is something that can never be replaced, it’s not just about the speaker taking his/her time to deliver information to us. Sitting at some event listening to a boring or clueless speaker (just talking general now, remember, this isn’t about Ben and Mena) is not a good use of time.

With all this said, Mind Camp 2.0 must provide internet access and if it means they have to charge for it, so be it. The people who require internet access for their presentations and sharing information as well as checking important email, etc, will be glad to pay for a good connection. The botched mesh experiment that was attempted at Mind Camp 1.0 will resonate far more in people’s minds than the value of the community without the internet.

In fact, a good argument could be made that having good internet connectivity is far less disruptive than the converse. I’d put this as the #1 problem for most of these conferences. If someone reading is planning, organizing and/or sponsoring one of these camps, conferences or events make damn sure internet connectivity and power (enough outlets) is a top priority.

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November 7, 2005

Electric car worth $100,000 malfunctions and crashes

mindcamp1.0, travel — by TDavid @ 5:43 pm PST

electric car at Mind Camp screenshot

Think golf cart on steroids. Lots of steroids.

Nope, not done talking about Mind Camp yet. One of the neat things mind campers got to see was an electric car that runs up to 60 MPH which a brochure described as “the world’s fastest urban transportation.” This electric car which you can learn more about at communtercars.com sells for a little over $100,000 (ouch) and is built by hand. It’s classified as a kit car and holds one passenger sitting behind the driver in a separate seat. Definitely not a blue collar car yet although the brochure talks about less sport prototypes that might someday be built on a scale that could bring costs down under $20,000. That’s a more realistic price point for the John Q. Public.

The engineer told us that George Clooney (ER, Batman) just bought one. The car will go 80 miles on a full charge which takes 8 hours on standard 110 volt, about 2 hours on 220 or to 80% in 10 minutes on an offboard dedicated 200 amp charge. They are promoting as a supplement to the family car and detail stats show an equivalent of 195 miles per gallon when factoring in the cost of fuel. For about three grand worth of solar panels, that can make the experience even more economical.

electric car and Mind Camp

While talking to the engineer and learning all about the car, Scoble came in from the outside and checked it out (see photo above).

Besides washing the car and normal upkeep, replacing the batteries is the biggest service related issue. All 2,000+ pounds worth of batteries are stored at the tire level keeping the center of gravity very low and making for a go-cart like experience when taking turns. You would think looking at the car that it would tip over easily, but not with all that weight so low to the ground.

Apparently that electric power resulted in a minor (?) malfunction resulting in a crash. Eric describes the accident:

While the engineer that designed the commuter car I mentioned above was trying to drive the car over to the trailer they used to transport it there was a malfunction with the acceleration causing the car to move forward very fast up a curb, across some grass, and into a chain link fence. Nobody was injured, the extent of the damage to the car is currently unknown.

Uh, let’s just hope that Batman doesn’t have any of these accelerator malfunctions and go flying off a cliff without his cape.

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November 6, 2005

You know there are network connection problems when…

mindcamp1.0 — by TDavid @ 10:40 pm PST

screenshot of network connection screen during Mind Camp

These guys tried to get a mesh network going but it failed. That was one of the low points of Mind Camp 1.0 although this situation did add some comedic value. Campers could break the ice meeting each other by complaining about how much the internet connectivity sucked. Late in the evening it got a little better connecting to “working_damn_internet.”

Suggestion for Mind Camp 2.0, if/when that comes to fruition
Charge each attendee who wants internet connectivity 20 bones or so and get some good bandwidth piped in (at least 100k per user). This is the most common problem with computer related conventions and it makes zero sense. I don’t want to sound like a complainer because Mind Camp was a free event (thank you sponsors) and Andru seems like a pretty good guy, but if he can take something away from this event to improve for next time (if there is a next time), get some better internet connectivity for the attendees.

I’ve gone to conventions in other industrys and the internet connection has been great. The only internet-related convention with a crowd of more than 100 people I’ve been to that had decent internet connectivity without an extra fee was Northern Voice which is getting together for version 2.0 this coming February.

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Mind Camp robot

mindcamp1.0 — by TDavid @ 9:56 pm PST

Robot at Mindcamp

This somewhat noisy but curious robot was making its way the middle of the main area, lifting a triangular object in the air and picking up the occasional chair.

Robot at Mind Camp

That chair doesn’t have a chance.

Robot at Mind Camp

I didn’t stop by and find out who was behind this robot but saw several campers were over checking it out and navigating the robot via the joystick controls.

Robot at Mind Camp

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November 5, 2005

Seattle Mind IRC and pictures

mindcamp1.0 — by TDavid @ 8:07 pm PST

irc.freenode.net #mindcamp
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I’m in the chatroom as I post this now, about to enter an unofficial Scoble session (he’s sitting about ten feet from me as I type this). Well, it broke up before I got this posted with the pictures.

Sounds like they are talking about blogging so I’m going to head on over and check it out.

Mike Torres from MSN Spaces.

A view of the main room this morning.

Another view of the main room.

Network connectivity
It’s been getting better. The mesh experiment hasn’t gone so well (I’ll write about this in more detail another time).

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Organizing Mind Camp attendee list in OneNote

mindcamp1.0, customer adventures, Tablet PC — by TDavid @ 10:34 am PST

Still working on organizing myself for today’s Mind Camp and last night I copied the attendee list in the browser (CTRL + C) from the Seattle Mind home page into a newly created OneNote tab labeled mindcamp1.0. The top most tab contained the list of all attendees and links to their respective websites, where applicable.

Using OneNote for organizing an event attendee list main folder screenshot
screenshot #1 shows central OneNote page.

I made a new master page for each attendee with their name and hyperlink as the page name.

Using OneNote for organizing an event attendee list main folder screenshot
screenshot #2 shows new page for Mind Camp attendee. On this page I plan to record notes of conversations/sessions and interesting things related to the people. This will help me put a face to a name.

Notes
- as I was making the pages it seemed to me it would have been handy in OneNote to have a function to be able to just highlight a bunch of links and make them separate pages automatically. Does this function exist?
- Saved as a .one file. This way others using OneNote could incorporate the basic file structure into their OneNote program and conveniently make notes on their acquaintenances. I will be posting this file soon, so please check back. [download mindcamp.one 622 K]

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November 3, 2005

Next generation Yahoo maps: new tools, geocode API and more

mindcamp1.0, customer adventures, travel — by TDavid @ 12:58 pm PST

Oh yeah, this new Yahoo Maps beta has lots of developer plugin goodness.

Yahoo Maps beta targets mashup developers

The Ysearch blog lays out the major differences:

1. Multi-point driving directions. Get yourself from point A to B and on to C all in one map.
2. Integrated Yahoo! Local. Includes our local search, a browseable interface, easy access to business ratings, reviews, and events.
3. The new overview map (in the upper-right hand corner) helps you get your bearings. The little grey box representing your big map is even drag-able. Use it to move around rapidly without losing context.

You bet there is a simple API and then the other APIs:

Thanks for the links Jeremy!

I entered the Seattle Mind Camp directions and clicked on the traffic checkbox (right now on KIRO710 they are describing as “really messy drive”) … notice the commute to Seattle this morning pictured above. Fortunately, Saturday will be better unless they have a bunch of construction happening.

This was released last night at 9pm and predictably lots of bloggers are talking about it:

Software Only Jeff Clavier: “I have just started playing with this new version and find it quite remarkable.”
Simon Willison, who works at Yahoo: “I think you’ll agree that this is all extremely exciting stuff.”
Search Engine Journal: “Journalists typically ask what part of this mapping craze is novelty and what part is utility. I say that novelty becomes utility as maps get better and consumers discover they can use them for more things.”
Scoble thinks Virtual Earth and Yahoo’s new maps are doomed because of Google’s advertising platform and points out Yahoo’s API rate limits: “What is there? Here, I’ll copy and paste the text for you. “The Yahoo! Maps Embeddedable APIs (the Flash and AJAX APIs are limited to 50,000 queries per IP per day and to non-commercial use.””

Scoble makes some controversial points (I thought he was “taking the week off” until Mind Camp? LOL), although YPN in beta is something we’ve been testing and have been pretty happy with the payouts compared to Adsense. I don’t think Scoble knows anything about payout levels and comparative analysis between affiliate programs because he doesn’t use any of them.

If Yahoo (or Microsoft with their upcoming Adcenter) allow their affiliates to put their ads (YPN for Yahoo Maps, Adcenter for Virtual Earth)– or at least share revenue in the ads displayed — beside the maps then that is a service that could have some serious disruptive action. In the meantime this could be leaning more to eye candy and toys than a whole lot of dedicated commercial development. Webmasters want and like simple to use tools to put on their website and like to get paid for their efforts … or at least to share in the revenue.

My thoughts
I’m not a big fan of Flash. It’s often overused in the wrong places (particularly movie websites and some business websites). IMO, it should be used for simple website enhancements but there are exceptions. Flickr was one of those rare Flash apps that I liked. Too soon for me to say if I like Yahoo Maps, but I like how open they are with the APIs and encouraging developers to build into and out of it. They do offer commercial licenses but I haven’t checked into the pricing.

A bigger and/or more obvious button/link is needed so folks can share location maps URLs with others. In the YSearch Blog they specifically talked about how the links to the maps aren’t obscured but … where are these links? In the address bar it’s simply maps.yahoo.com/beta. I emailed the map to myself to get the link and even that didn’t have the link inside it. Uh, hello, what am I missing here? Instructions to find link here. I wanted to be able to save this map but where are the links? Anybody know?

On the developer side, can’t wait to get some time to play around with this stuff. Probably won’t be today or tomorrow, but maybe there will be some time at Mind Camp.

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Prepping for Mindcamp + IRC chat

mindcamp1.0, travel — by TDavid @ 10:34 am PST

Seattle Mind Camp (seattlemind.com) is only two days away and it’s time for me to start prepping and deciding what equipment will be and not be coming this Saturday November 5.

Map and directions
from Puyallup, WA to Mind Camp directions via Google

Google Maps directions to Seattle Mind Camp

Below is a possible preliminary checklist which will continue to be updated until the event:

Computers and accessories

M1400 Tablet PC slate

wireless mouse (USB base connector)

wowpad mousepad

wireless mouse

USB portable keyboard

Aiptek DV3100 (video)

HP 315 digital camera

Wacom digital pen

speakers (JBL)

headphones (Sony)

orange crossover cable (for connecting to laptop)

2 USB cords

1 ethernet cord

Memorex CD burner (USB)

QTY 2 - 100 pak of burnable CDs

QTY 10 - jewel cases (sleeves needed?)

Sony VAIO laptop

USB mouse

Mouse Rug

Pocket PC

USB/power supply

Carrying case

WiFi card

USB mouse

Audio for possible live streaming and recording (enough local bandwidth?)

QTY 2 - Microphones

Tall boom Mic stand

Short Mic stand

Randall amplifier

4-channel Mixer

AC adapter

Notes: unsure of audio equipment going or not yet because not sure if there will be enough local bandwidth. There wasn’t for another recent smaller show, at least initially, which seemed to have had a larger budget. Check with coordinator?

Gaming

Sony PSP

PSP adapter/charger

UMD movie

PSP games (a couple)

Nintendo DS

charger

DS games (a couple)

General equipment and supplies

folding table

2 chairs

desk light

sleeping bag

small cooler

Bud Half-time bag

50 foot extension cord

QTY 2 - power strip

QTY 12+ - AA batteries

Miscellaneous

Tablet Guy

Channel 9 Guy

Snacks

lime chips

salsa (store in cooler)

tabasco sauce!

water

QTY 2 bags ice

trick or treat small bag

Online prep (some items that can be completed at event)

Our Blogs / Podcasting / Vlog prep

MakeYouGoHmm: create category “mindcamp” for tagging content BDA

Webmaster Cookbook: create category “mindcamp” for tagging content before, during and after the event

Mac Mind: create category “mindcamp” for tagging content BDA

php-scripts blog: create category “mindcamp” for tagging content BDA

IRC setup. I noticed an IRC chatroom did not appear to be setup for the event yet, ~~so our company KMR Enterprises has set one up. You can find this chat at: irc.scriptschool.com #mindcamp.~~ A cross compatible java chat interface is available here.

~~Some initial @ops have been assigned and will be monitoring the channel but there’s room for more.~~

Update 11/4/2005 6:11am PST: The coordinator of Seattle Mind, Andru Edwards informed me that there already is an official IRC setup for the event and he just hasn’t had time to blog it yet. Here is the server details:

irc.freenode.net #mindcamp

No word on whether there is a java setup for this or not, so I pointed the java chat linked above to this IRC server. He also said that he was told their would be “plenty of bandwidth.”

Feel free to stop on by and chat about pre-event stuff or talk to us live during mindcamp. Nickserv services are in tact, so you can register your nick.

Ok, that’s the rough list out of my head. Doubtful that everything on that list will be coming, but from this list can be checked off things I believe will be most valuable/useful to bring along.

The next step is to transfer this list into OneNote so I can write and further annotate the list. I also made a list of questions/notes for the coordinator (Andru from GearLive) and emailed him. Most of my concerns revolve around onsite bandwidth.

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