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November 29, 2007

Hulu better than Joost for U.S only crowd, thanks to superior content

Hmm Reviews, video, television — by TDavid @ 8:59 am PST
F = please no more posts like thisD = not among your best stuffC = average postB = good post, I liked itA = great post, please create more like this (1 votes, average: 5 out of 5)
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Last night my Hulu.com beta invite arrived. Hulu is a joint venture between NBC Universal and News Corp’s online video. Immediately I logged in and created a new password and started poking around. You mean I can use Hulu to legally watch full episodes of shows like The Simpsons? Right on!

Hulu TV site

As I write this post, I’m watching Treehouse of Horror XVIII from this year’s season, something I can’t do anywhere else online (legally). Offline we don’t have cable, satellite or even an over the air antenna setup, so even the free channels aren’t an option in our household. For the last 500+ days, our only form of television has been through DVDs purchased of seasons. We just finished watching the first seasons of Benson and Silver Spoons, for example.

The two major problems with Joost I have is that the content doesn’t appeal to me and it’s P2P based. I’ve tried a couple different times to get into Joost but it’s like watching most of the channels on TV: there’s a lot of channels but very little of interest to me. Maybe some others reading love all the Joost content and can tell me what I’m missing? Shortly after launching Joost I’m already ready to shut it down.

Not the case for Hulu where I could instantly scan the available choices and start watching.

Hulu offers professional content from: Bravo, E! Entertainment, FOX, IGN, NBC Universal, Sci Fi, FX, Sundance Channel, Sony, USA, Universal Pictures, Comedy Time, MGM, Fight Networks, Ford Models, Fuel TV, G4, GameSpot, Golf Channel, Movieola, WWE, National Geographic, Oxygen, Speed Channel, TVG, TV.com, TV Guide, Versus, X17, LX.TV, Rehearsals, Reveille, Style Network and TVG Horse Racing.

This includes some of our newer favorite shows like: 24, Cops, Las Vegas, Prison Break, My Name is Earl and The Simpsons as well as some classics like The A-Team, Night Gallery and WKRP in Cincinatti. Also there are some new shows we haven’t seen like: Bionic Woman. Some of the shows listed are only clips like Saturday Night Live, which is kind of lame.

The first thing I tried to do was run Hulu on the PS3 through our 1080p HDTV. No dice in the Playstation browser, so my next test will be to see if I can pipe the Hulu video experience through the Xbox 360 and Vista version of Media Center. I’d much prefer to watch this on the TV, even if it’s still in a browser type setup.

Confined by the browser (F11 still doesn’t cut it)
One strength Joost has over Hulu is not being confined to the browser. If there’s a workaround for this, please let me know in the comments. TV and movies are best enjoyed on a television or decent-sized monitor, not in a browser.

Hulu TV site

I know the F11 trick in Firefox, but it still leaves remnants of the browser on screen. When you go full screen through Hulu you get large black blocky space around the frame, not truly stretched full screen video as shown in the video screenshot to the right below. In Joost you can get a better true full screen experience than Hulu.

Hulu TV siteHulu options available include: a small popout window, full screen (with browser remnants), lower lights which dims frame colors around the viewing area and the ability to rate the shows from 1-5 stars. I’d trade all these options for a single fully stretched, high quality picture. Let me pay a few bucks and get HD and I’ll be reaching for my wallet.

With the new shows you can watch the four most recent episodes which is a bit of a bummer if you’re just now getting invited and the episodes start at #3 or #4. With WKRP in Cincinatti the entire first season was available. Wow, that’s quite a value considering we paid $20 for the DVD! Night Gallery, however only had four episodes from the first season, so not every series is complete. Still, there’s enough content to watch at Hulu to keep one busy for weeks, if not months.

The quality of the video is merely OK. It’s equal to or better than the quality of other TV in browser implementations but it’s not DVD-quality and a far cry from HD quality. When you resize the windows, the video will resize. At full screen you’ll see some pixelation and artifacts.

No, not commercial free like DVDs
At Hulu you will have to endure 30 second commercial breaks that you can’t fast forward through, but these seem less intrusive than commercials on television. In the Simpsons episode I counted three 30 second commercial breaks. No problem.

Summary and grade
With the wide variety and quality content offered through Hulu for free (there are commercials, again), this is easily my favorite TV video site available on the web. Sadly, it’s not available outside the United States at this time but according to a post on the Hulu blog:

Today, the service is a U.S. service only. That said, our intention is to make Hulu’s growing content lineup available worldwide. Given that this requires clearing the rights for each show or film in each specific geography, it will take time. In no uncertain terms, the Hulu team is committed to making great programming available across the globe. I’ve been very encouraged by how many content providers have already been working along these lines so that their programs can be available over the internet to a much larger, global audience.

Hulu doesn’t really compare to user-generated sites like YouTube. You can’t upload your own videos to Hulu and you are kind of an island as far as an individual user (no social features that I can see yet), but you can embed clips from your favorite shows in your site/blog like say Opera Man from Saturday Night Live:

All in all, I’m very impressed and surprised by how much I liked Hulu on a first look. We’ll be spending a good amount of time at Hulu over the next few weeks. If/when they expand this to a global audience and add some more features like videoblogs and user-created content, work on higher quality (yes, even it’s for a fee), they’ll have a serious competitor in the online video sector. They already do with the content alone. Grade: B

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  1. Aside from the following bugs, I’m very pleased with the Hulu too.

    You can do an F11 on the popout view. But there are a few drawbacks. The first is that it gets pixelated and looks like crap. Second is that I coulodn’t F11 or F12 to change it back! So I had to do an Alt+F4. Maybe it’s just my setup that won’t allow it? Either way I can’t watch it pixelated like that.

    I’m going to mention these in the Hulu feedback.

    I wonder if it still looks bad while running an S-video to my TV. I’ll try it tonight… AFTER the Packer-Cowboy game.

    Comment by ^Lestat — November 29, 2007 @ 9:31 am PST

  2. I havent tried out Hulu specifically, but I know other sites can do full-screen Flash video, provided you’ve upgraded to the latest version…perhaps thats the issue here?

    Also, I think Hulu is going to take the wind out of the sails of Joost, a service I so much wanted to like; unfortunately, the content just isnt there (not to mention ridiculous stuttering/lag issues on my relatively average-specs laptop).

    Comment by Ravi — November 29, 2007 @ 9:43 am PST

  3. In the video space where our time is demanded, content rules. Joost has a lot of content, Ravi, I just couldn’t find much that I liked. Others mileage may vary.

    Comment by TDavid — November 29, 2007 @ 10:09 am PST

  4. I think you misunderstood me TDavid…I’m looking forward to Hulu over Joost! Joost has never worked well for me and, I agree, it just doesnt have content I want to watch.

    Also, I’m glad to see a LEGAL site competing with the likes of TV Links and Peekvid. As a TV aficionado, I hate those sites because they deprive content owners of their well-deserved wages for watching their work (now if only the strike would end…).

    Comment by Ravi — November 29, 2007 @ 10:42 am PST

  5. HULU has a full screen option as one of its options.

    And being confined to a browser is not such a bad thing because many devices including game consoles can handle flash and Java and support a browser.

    One disadvantage is not being able to use p2p but flash developers and p2p engineers are working on making lightwight protocols that use HTTP.

    Comment by Matt — November 29, 2007 @ 12:19 pm PST

  6. No, I understood you perfectly :) My comment about others mileage may vary was for people other than you and I.

    Comment by TDavid — November 29, 2007 @ 12:37 pm PST

  7. Hulu doesn’t work in the Wii browser or the PS3. Tested on Firefox on the Mac and Hulu works good. I can get Hulu to work with Windows Media Center and the MCE Browser BUT only video, no sound, so that’s out. Just moved an old laptop in and used the TV as a monitor. Works, but picture is lousy on HDTV.

    Comment by TDavid — November 29, 2007 @ 12:40 pm PST

  8. Hi Matt - you must have skipped past the part in the post where I talked specifically about the full screen option inside Hulu and how it doesn’t stretch to fit, as well as the screenshot above which shows what I meant:

    “When you go full screen through Hulu you get large black blocky space around the frame, not truly stretched full screen video as shown in the video screenshot to the right below.”

    Comment by TDavid — November 29, 2007 @ 12:43 pm PST

  9. Yeah HULU unfortunaly uses Flash 9 and the Abode SDK for Devices is Flash 7 so the Xbox and Wii can only can handle sites that can Handle flash 7 one of these being Youtube (Did HULU make a big mistake here using Flash 9???).

    At the moment everyone is waiting on Abode to update the SDK and thier hands are tied until them .

    Comment by Matt — November 29, 2007 @ 12:46 pm PST

  10. It would have been so nice to see Hulu support Flash 7 for the PS3 browser. That way it could come in directly versus having to use as a monitor for the computer. Maybe I’ll submit that to Hulu as a recommendation. Appreciate your feedback, Matt.

    Comment by TDavid — November 29, 2007 @ 12:48 pm PST

  11. The black bars is a problem with many IPTV solutions including Joost and its partly because they don’t have a standard when it comes to ingested video from content owners so some is 16:9 and 4:3 ranging from standard def to hig def for download for the content aggators and tends to be an issue with Widescreen monitors .

    Joost has slightly fixed this problem and you can press V to stretch the image Joost fixed this a couple of months ago .

    Comment by Matt — November 29, 2007 @ 1:03 pm PST

  12. This is the first time I have heard of these. Do you think it would be suitable for my 15yr old son for Christmas? I dont fully understand as im not computer savvy, whereas to the kids these days, its second nature.

    Do you know of availabilty in Australia?

    Comment by Tony Warne — December 2, 2007 @ 11:15 pm PST

  13. The content Joost and HULU is from the major networks and Studios so dont expect to see Porn ;)

    Also Joost has parental controls and a PIN but it a pain in the arse to use .

    Comment by Matt — December 3, 2007 @ 3:59 am PST

  14. Aw Matt! The parental controls are a pain?

    Not too worry. I’ll get my youngest son to set it up for me!

    Comment by Tony Warne — December 3, 2007 @ 12:16 pm PST

  15. I got a hulu invite couple of days myself, just been addicted to it - but looks like the line-up of shows is not increasing as fast I would like it! I watched all the house episodes, now I crave for more but its not available… Don’t know how joost is going in that front!

    Comment by Vikas — December 4, 2007 @ 8:18 am PST

  16. We can thank the writer’s strike for that, Vikas. Hopefully it will be settled soon.

    Comment by TDavid — December 4, 2007 @ 9:52 am PST

  17. To get Hulu (or anything else for that matter - on the monitor) on TV just get a video card with TV-out. For regular TV make sure you set monitor to 1024 x 768. Then you’ve got TV - as good as the real stuff.

    Comment by Charlie — February 4, 2008 @ 4:32 pm PST


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