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November 26, 2007

Garmin Street Pilot c330

Hmm Reviews, gadgets, travel — by TDavid @ 2:57 pm PST

Garmin StreetPilot c330 reviewWe just got back from a mini road trip to demo our newest car gadget: the Garmin Street Pilot c330. I’ve been checking out these GPS navigation systems for awhile and waiting for the right moment to jump in. One of the Wal-mart Black Friday deals was the Garmin c330 which Consumer Reports rated highly. $128? Are you kidding? I’m there.

Official website product page for Garmin Street Pilot c330
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The c330 comes in one of those knuckle bleeding clam shell cases. Take your favorite pocket knife or razor blade to the case and unveil the contents: c330 which fits in the palm of your hand, suction cup mount and circular dash sticky mount, CD and USB cord.

Attaching the Garmin c330 to the suction cup windshield mount is as easy as pressing it into the grooves and snapping it gently into place. You don’t even need to even plug it into the USB to charge the three hour internal battery.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

I wet the back of the suction cup, unhinged the clasp and then stuck it on the front windshield beneath the rearview mirror of our 2007 PT Cruiser. The winshield mount swivels so when you aren’t using the device you can push it up near the mirror and give yourself more line of sight. There is a small plugin on the device for the cigarette adapter which powers the c330.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

Note: the states of California and Minnesota prohibit the use of anything that attaches to your windshield. You’ll need to use the enclosed circular dash mount for those cases. Pity really, as the c330 isn’t intrusive (see picture above of limited line of sight interference).

During our trip, we decided to move the unit down further so it had a better view of the skies. We had some issues with locating satellites with it closer to the rear-view mirror.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

On first power-up the c330 will communicate with the satellite and triangulate your position. Now big brother knows where you are at (just kidding). This process takes a couple minutes. Meanwhile you can thumb through one of the smallest instruction manuals I’ve received with any gadget. It’s like a half dozen pages with color pictures. The Garmin Street Pilot c330 ranks among one of the easiest to setup gadgets I’ve ever used.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

After the initial setup the User Interface gives you two choice: Where to? and View Map.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

This simplistic UI is surprisingly effective. Both my wife and I found it very easy to tell the Garmin c330 where we wanted to go.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

In the above picture four key items are marked in red:

1. The arrival time to your destination. This will be explained in more detail shortly.
2. Menu button will return you to the “Where now?” screen. You can also access the settings (marked with a wrench). These items are disabled in safe mode while driving. You can disable safe mode if a passenger is going to program new or modify existing destinations. If you choose a new destination along the route to another one, the c330 will ask you if you want to travel to the secondary location along the way to your existing destination. This is useful if you are hungry and need to veer a bit off track in order to get to a nearby restaurant.
3. This is your vehicle. Note that your destination is shown in red. As long as you keep the car in the red, you’re traveling the right direction. Funny that they didn’t use green. Your destination is marked with a checkered flag.
4. On the right bottom corner is how many miles or feet until your next turn or action point. We learned that sometimes the c330 would tell us to “stay right” or “stay left” when the text actually says to turn. A little confusing when you look at the screen but if you follow the road, you’re good to go.

One of the neat functions is being able to choose the “near” option which will tell you where points of interest are like shopping malls, gas stations, restaurants and more. When you find a spot you want to go to, like we did with a nearby Godfather’s Pizza you just touch with your finger and choose “Go.”

Perhaps the biggest issue with these devices is the accuracy of the maps and satellite connection. If the maps are too outdated then it will show you places nearby that don’t exist at all. Godfather’s Pizza in Lacey is now a Round Table, for example. We also found a couple other places on our brief beach trip that didn’t exist.

As for the satellite connection, we experienced a total meltdown with the Garmin c330 while driving through Portland, Oregon. It kept losing the signal and when it found a signal it would be off on streets nearby that we weren’t on. I decided to call Garmin support today to see what they recommended about dealing with outdated maps and inferior satellite connectivity through a major city in the United States. If we lived in and/or regularly navigated through Portland there’s no way I’d want to use this device. I learned that there is a free firmware upgrade on the website which specifically deals with this issue.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

Another useful feature is bright, very readable text that shows detailed data about your trip such as (pictured above):

- how long it will take to get there. The estimated arrival time is shown in the lower left corner. This gives you the ability to estimate how many miles away you are. The arrival time and miles will adjust as you move closer to your destination.
- miles per hour traveled both current and overall average. There is also a rather useles max speed counter. We found this number getting out of sync frequently showing numbers like 286mph. In a PT Cruiser? Yeah, right. Even got a number 986mph once, I’d like to see the speeding ticket for that one!
- trip counter (”Total time”). Contains stats for how far traveled, how much time. Some vehicles have these features as part of the cruise control package and this would be a duplicate feature but for those vehicles without, it’s handy.
- stop time (”Stopped”). How much time are you spending stopped at traffic lights?

Both the trip settings (”Reset Trip”) and max settings (”Reset Max”) can be reset with a touch to the buttons along the bottom.

Somewhat quirky search
You can also enter in street addresses and search by names, but the search is greatly dependent on the map database. Again, everything goes back to the map database. We tried finding the Fry’s in our area. We tried misspelling (below) and spelling it correctly but the c330 could not locate the Fry’s in Renton.

Garmin StreetPilot c330 review

Fortunately, we could enter in the exact address and have the c330 help us navigate there that way.

The importance of current maps
Business open and close, it’s very difficult for the maps to stay completely current, but after further more extensive testing I was disappointed that the c330 comes with crippled maps. The reason the c330 is being sold so cheaply is because the maps are outdated and there isn’t enough space internally on the units to hold the entire US and Canada. Since we travel to Canada a few times a year, this isn’t a good unit for us.

Surprisingly, the customer support rep at Garmin was very helpful in recommending the following other Garmin units which would fit our needs better:

Street Pilot c340 - this is the newer model in the 300 series and if it doesn’t come with the current 2008 maps, Garmin will automatically send you the new maps for free ($70 USD for c330 owners). This also adds the feature of voice prompts for the street name: e.g “turn right on main street in 0.2 miles” versus the c330 version of: “turn right in 0.2 miles.” Also the c340 comes with a feature that allows viewing the maps on your computer. This way you can map out destinations from your computer.
nuVee 250 (no voice streets) - comes with enough space to hold full US and Canada maps but doesn’t have the voice prompts
nuVee 260 (voice street prompts = yes) - a little more expensive than the 250.

And finally a more fancy and expensive version was offered: the nuvee 350 (voice street yes, MP3 and picture storage). Not sure we need to go this far as we already have an iPod and Zune with plenty of storage for music and pictures, but it’s nice to know what versions come with the 2008 maps. It’s too bad Wal-mart didn’t do anything to educate people on Black Friday that the c330 deal came with a big *asterisk:

*1. maps are outdated and it cost $70 to update them
*2. unit doesn’t have the capacity to hold full maps for US and Canada. Something important that people who live near the border like we do will probably want to know.

Bad Wal-mart, bad. I suppose we should have expected it was too good a deal to be true.

Points of Interest
One last thing to mention that makes these devices cool are programmable points of interest (POI). You can download POI from various sites on the web to an SD card up to 2GB in size and then be able to access them from all the Garmin GPS devices. I didn’t check into how easy this is to do, formats and the like, but it sounds like a great way to make your GPS even more useful.

After using the c330 the last few days, and especially because I love playing around with new gadgets, I’m not sure how or why I haven’t bought and used one of these devices sooner.

Summary and Grade
If you live in the midwest or don’t travel to Canada, the c330 could be an OK first GPS device at the price. I was really stoked about the device until realizing the number of limitations. Now I have buyer’s remorse. I was on hold calling Garmin support for almost 20 minutes before the rep came to the line (bad), but found the friendly service representative helpful and knowledgeable.

I love how easy it is to read the c330 screen. It will automatically switch into night mode display which is also easy to read in the evening. The touch screen sensitivity was just right although my fingers did press the wrong keys a few times. Overall, not something that would turn me off to the interface which I think is one of the strengths of the device.

It’s rare when a customer support person encourages you to take something back to the store because the device isn’t a good fit for your individual situation. Additionally she knew the answers to my other questions and helped me understand what other units they sold would be a better fit. I’ll end up spending more, but then if we bought the $70 maps that we couldn’t even load fully anyway, we’d be at $200 anyway. I’m thinking for $200 we should be able to find the c340. Amazon shows the c340 for almost $100 more than we paid for the c330.

At the price and if you don’t mind the limitations the c330 could provide a whole new travel dimension. I’m going to take it back to Wal-mart and see if I can get the c340 instead. Grade: C+

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  1. Do you normally drive around with that thing in the middle of your windscreen? Please bear in mind that the accident rate is higher in people who use satnav units.

    Comment by Max — November 28, 2007 @ 2:47 pm PST

  2. Max - yes, it isn’t a distraction like you might think from the pictures (see the picture from the further distant view to see how much windshield real estate it takes up, not as bad as the close-ups look).

    The voice prompts are all I need and as I look in the rearview mirror a quick glance down can make sure we’re in the “red” so to speak as in on track. We’ve since replaced with the c340 recommended by Garmin, but that’s the same size. Honestly, I think it would be MORE of a distraction if it wasn’t in the windshield because I’d be looking away from the road. And that’s rarely a good thing to do.

    Comment by TDavid — November 28, 2007 @ 3:07 pm PST

  3. Very good review. I was inlisted by a friend of mine to find the best nav system for a reasonable price. We were looking at the c330 as an option, but we felt that it was important to have it call out the streets by name instead of “turn in 500 feet” So, he ended up getting the pricier nuvi 350. It hasn’t come in yet, but I hope he stops by when it does, I love playin with gadgets :)

    Comment by Gear — November 28, 2007 @ 4:55 pm PST

  4. Thanks Gear, as I was telling Max in #2, the c340 is the same size as the c330 and less expensive than the Nuvi 350 but has the “turn right at Main street” voice prompts.

    Comment by TDavid — November 28, 2007 @ 7:29 pm PST

  5. Ah, I just noticed that. Hmm, I don’t think we looked at the C340 much. As I look at it now, the C340 is currently the same price as the c330 ($230 at newegg) and $100 cheaper that the nuvi 350. I’m starting to wonder if I gave the wrong recommendation now lol.

    I don’t understand why one company needs to make 20+ automotive models. It get’s very confusing sorting through all the features and trying to remember it all.

    Comment by Gear — November 29, 2007 @ 12:27 am PST

  6. I have owned a c330 gamin for a year or so. I hooked my garmin up to my computer and went to the Gamin site and checked to see if my gamin was updatable. Their site said that it was. So I went to circuit city and bought the 2008 map updates and it says right on the software that c330 will work. I am now trying to update and it says that I don’t have enough memory to update it. I bought a 2 gig SD card and that didn’t help. Does anyone know what I should do? Thanks.

    Comment by brad salzwedel — December 15, 2007 @ 6:17 pm PST

  7. Hi Brad - have you tried contacting Garmin support directly? I found the customer service rep I spoke to very helpful and friendly.

    Comment by TDavid — December 16, 2007 @ 5:09 am PST

  8. Where do you get your info on “accident rate is higher in people who use satnav units”. They help you keep your eyes on the road and not trying to read street signs and help at night if you glance at them to see the road layout. (for example sharp turn just over hill or T in the road comes up fast in the dark etc… Lets not just make up statistics Max.

    Comment by Dave — May 25, 2008 @ 10:59 pm PST

  9. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the easy to read ui that these gps systems have. I’m searching for the right model right now but you’ve certainly sobered my interest in Garmin with this review of the c330. I was thinking of the c340 myself based on a good rating from Consumer Reports. Although I think the map problem might be sorted out with the c340 model.

    As far as the audio directions, I think I would rather have the unit call out street names than then use the “turn right in 300ft” notifications…just seems less confusing that way. I guess I’ll have to take a closer look at the nuvi models.

    Comment by Brian — June 2, 2008 @ 12:34 pm PST

  10. I have to say that I’ve become pretty disenchanted with Garmin. I bought a c330 at the end of March 2007 (and paid a full $300 - no cheapy deal). Whenever I checked for map updates, the reply was “non available”. (I have updated the software.) If I had bought it 32 days later I would have been “eligible” for a free map update (2008?).

    That this unit was discontinued just a little over a year after being introduced is a good bit distressing. (apparently nothing personal, just modern marketing. My point - they must have known the unit’s shortcomings when they went ahead and marketed it.)

    I’ve read the problems of insufficient memory in the 330 for internal map updating, so I’m considering buying the 2009 US maps on SD card. I’d be interested in hearing some positive experiences from persons going this route with their 330’s - - does the unit automatically use the newer map version on the SD card, or do you have to do something to instruct it to select that?

    It would have been nice if they had engineered the unit for, and sold a “sandbag” for the unit to rest on on the dashboard rather than restricting it to a windshield mount or a glue-disk for the dash. (So I just wrap a hand towel around it and sit it on the dash anyway.)

    I’s say the unit is about 95+% accurate. But you can’t blindly depend on it - best to have a general idea of where you need to go. It doesn’t always give the best route, by any standard, and on at least one occasion had me snaking back and forth (unnecessarily) to get to the chosen destination. Inexplicable!

    And its somewhat amusing when it puts you in the middle of a blank screen because you’re on a road that’s not in it’s data bank - - sort of like being in the Twilight Zone (or Mrs. Todd’s Shortcut).

    Next time I buy a new unit, I’ll definitely consider other makes first.
    Dick

    Comment by Richard — December 4, 2008 @ 3:39 pm PST

  11. I definitely love the garmin gps trackers. My company has me test dozens of these every month and I always find the Garmin ones connect the fastest and have the most reliable results.

    Comment by Clayton — January 21, 2009 @ 8:18 pm PST

  12. GRRREAT…just got my Garmin 330 in the mail, turned it on, and realized it has old maps. So that’s when I started doing some reading. I came to learn that map updates AREN’T free and cost JUST AS MUCH AS WHAT I PAID FOR THE UNIT. I was misled into thinking the 330 model has spoken street names by reading “turn by turn voice prompts.” How am I supposed to know the difference? This is my first GPS unit and already I think I’ve made a mistake by buying this piece of trash. What’s more insulting is the 340 model that does everything I wanted (free map updates, street names spoken) IS THE SAME PRICE!!! I bought this unit via Buy.com - REFURBISHED for a what I thought was a great price. Now I know better. What a way to quickly learn the difference in models. I bought this Garmin unit because of the brand name. I’m pretty sure I won’t buy another and if I end up stuck with this unit, I’ll more than likely find an unlicensed copy of their overpriced map updates to satiate my need for a decent GPS unit.

    Comment by Gene — May 13, 2009 @ 5:00 pm PST


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