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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-666429</link>
		<author>Don</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After some in-depth research many years ago, I discovered this info that I have passed on to a lot of people with I think not a single person ever using it. You might be a Saturn person or whatever small pool of brands you might consider. And I have noticed that whatever this pool of potential brand options might be for some person, they will not deviate from it. Probably one of those things sales people instinctively know and take advantage of. So a long preamble to why anyone reading this post will most likely ignore it, but perhaps it will make you go hmmm...

The car tip is simple. Buy a vehicle made in Japan. But not any Japanese brand but an actual specific model manufactured in Japan and shipped over in a boat. This will need to be carefully researched for any specific model and year. In general, the upscale models such as Acura, Lexus, etc are still made in Japan. 

Buying a four year old upscale made in Japan vehicle should be approximately the same price as a brand new domestic model. The end result would be a vehicle that will last almost forever with almost zero repairs.

For reference, I am driving a 1990 Acura that I bought in August of 1989 and has cost about 3k in expected repairs (timing belt etc) over about 20 years. There is really no need for people to experience the problems they have... I have a relative that will buy only Fords, another friend that swore by GM Mini-vans. etc. I was amazed that they couldn't see the reality in front of their faces with their vehicles constantly in the shop for warranty repairs and then of course the out-of-warranty problems would start. I just smile now when I hear of car problems, since there is no longer any point of repeating my "tip" which for some mysterious reason just cannot enter the human brain...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After some in-depth research many years ago, I discovered this info that I have passed on to a lot of people with I think not a single person ever using it. You might be a Saturn person or whatever small pool of brands you might consider. And I have noticed that whatever this pool of potential brand options might be for some person, they will not deviate from it. Probably one of those things sales people instinctively know and take advantage of. So a long preamble to why anyone reading this post will most likely ignore it, but perhaps it will make you go hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>The car tip is simple. Buy a vehicle made in Japan. But not any Japanese brand but an actual specific model manufactured in Japan and shipped over in a boat. This will need to be carefully researched for any specific model and year. In general, the upscale models such as Acura, Lexus, etc are still made in Japan. </p>
<p>Buying a four year old upscale made in Japan vehicle should be approximately the same price as a brand new domestic model. The end result would be a vehicle that will last almost forever with almost zero repairs.</p>
<p>For reference, I am driving a 1990 Acura that I bought in August of 1989 and has cost about 3k in expected repairs (timing belt etc) over about 20 years. There is really no need for people to experience the problems they have&#8230; I have a relative that will buy only Fords, another friend that swore by GM Mini-vans. etc. I was amazed that they couldn&#8217;t see the reality in front of their faces with their vehicles constantly in the shop for warranty repairs and then of course the out-of-warranty problems would start. I just smile now when I hear of car problems, since there is no longer any point of repeating my &#8220;tip&#8221; which for some mysterious reason just cannot enter the human brain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-665397</link>
		<author>John</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"they said there were four errors related to the heating and air conditioning system" I wonder if that is an upsale by the service advisor. the egr makes sense with the engine light. 

you should check the Chevy cobalt coupe, there between 11,000 and 18,000 you can negitiate the best deal quickly, by going to gmbuypower.com and price quote a bunch of dealers in your area. 1750 rebate on an 2007 with a 5 yr 100000 powertrain. 


also the dodge caliber, and jeep patriot by chrysler have lifetime powertrain warranty for the first owner if your looking for long term ownership. they also offer a bumper to bumper lifetime wrap coverage, cost on that is 1365 with $100 dollar deductable, not sure what they will sell it for. 

I recommend buying american car, our economy is bad enough, kia's have horrible resale value, and banks don't like to finance them unless you have golden credit.

if you do go foreign, honda did about 2 billion in warrranty work last year, compared to about 3 billion for toyota, the big detriot 3 were around 4 to 6 billion.

best of luck.

service bill sounds high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they said there were four errors related to the heating and air conditioning system&#8221; I wonder if that is an upsale by the service advisor. the egr makes sense with the engine light. </p>
<p>you should check the Chevy cobalt coupe, there between 11,000 and 18,000 you can negitiate the best deal quickly, by going to gmbuypower.com and price quote a bunch of dealers in your area. 1750 rebate on an 2007 with a 5 yr 100000 powertrain. </p>
<p>also the dodge caliber, and jeep patriot by chrysler have lifetime powertrain warranty for the first owner if your looking for long term ownership. they also offer a bumper to bumper lifetime wrap coverage, cost on that is 1365 with $100 dollar deductable, not sure what they will sell it for. </p>
<p>I recommend buying american car, our economy is bad enough, kia&#8217;s have horrible resale value, and banks don&#8217;t like to finance them unless you have golden credit.</p>
<p>if you do go foreign, honda did about 2 billion in warrranty work last year, compared to about 3 billion for toyota, the big detriot 3 were around 4 to 6 billion.</p>
<p>best of luck.</p>
<p>service bill sounds high.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Anton</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-664615</link>
		<author>Matthew Anton</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would probably end up keeping it just because new cars aren't getting any cheaper and you can always fix the current problem for a bit less than buying a new one, but like you stated your at a different point in your life...it appears you want to sell it so go with that ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would probably end up keeping it just because new cars aren&#8217;t getting any cheaper and you can always fix the current problem for a bit less than buying a new one, but like you stated your at a different point in your life&#8230;it appears you want to sell it so go with that <img src='http://www.makeyougohmm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-664505</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FranciscoIV, dealer is saying labor is $300 and replacing "takes awhile" -- whatever that means (I didn't ask them to elaborate on the exact time, we didn't get that far). The part is the rest of the cost. Could we buy the part direct and save money? Probably. No way would I want to do the work myself, unless it is as easy as replacing the battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FranciscoIV, dealer is saying labor is $300 and replacing &#8220;takes awhile&#8221; &#8212; whatever that means (I didn&#8217;t ask them to elaborate on the exact time, we didn&#8217;t get that far). The part is the rest of the cost. Could we buy the part direct and save money? Probably. No way would I want to do the work myself, unless it is as easy as replacing the battery.</p>
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		<title>By: FranciscoIV</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-664494</link>
		<author>FranciscoIV</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TDavid, $600 sounds steep for a part that is no more than probably $70! I think auto repair is still one of the worst consumer ripoff/scams going.  I used to do most all my own work on my cars, though nowadays with all the electronics it is tough to diagnose problems.  Bet if you took a look at a good Chilton's guide to that car i bet it is a DIY job...  Nowadays Chilton's even has their guides on DVD...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TDavid, $600 sounds steep for a part that is no more than probably $70! I think auto repair is still one of the worst consumer ripoff/scams going.  I used to do most all my own work on my cars, though nowadays with all the electronics it is tough to diagnose problems.  Bet if you took a look at a good Chilton&#8217;s guide to that car i bet it is a DIY job&#8230;  Nowadays Chilton&#8217;s even has their guides on DVD&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-664478</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We looked at a Kia when shopping for the last car. They seemed alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We looked at a Kia when shopping for the last car. They seemed alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardlaw</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-664476</link>
		<author>Matt Wardlaw</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about looking at Kias?  My sister sold them for a couple of years, and also has had one for several years that she likes a lot, and has held up well..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about looking at Kias?  My sister sold them for a couple of years, and also has had one for several years that she likes a lot, and has held up well..</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20071112/4938/#comment-664454</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lestat (thanks!) gave me this helpful link which specifically points to an known issue with the EGR:
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2005-to-2007-saturn-relay-6.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lestat (thanks!) gave me this helpful link which specifically points to an known issue with the EGR:<br />
<a href="http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2005-to-2007-saturn-relay-6.htm">http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2005-to-2007-saturn-relay-6.htm</a></p>
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