Comments on: This coming holiday season’s console videogaming champ, chimp and chump http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/ Technology, music, video, art, news, reviews and muse on the web Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:57:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Wii now #1, Xbox 360 barely #2, PS3 distant #3 » Make You Go Hmm http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-634085 Wii now #1, Xbox 360 barely #2, PS3 distant #3 » Make You Go Hmm Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:06:46 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-634085 [...] rankings as you see them now are the way it is going to stay through this coming holiday season. What can gamers look forward to over the next few [...] […] rankings as you see them now are the way it is going to stay through this coming holiday season. What can gamers look forward to over the next few […]

]]> By: Official Playstation blog jabs Xbox 360 over unreliability » Make You Go Hmm http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-622504 Official Playstation blog jabs Xbox 360 over unreliability » Make You Go Hmm Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:51:06 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-622504 [...] games on the way, I see a brighter holiday season for the PS3. It’s still going to be #3 (still a chump) this holiday season, but for gamers who already have the Wii and Xbox 360 and also a 1080p capable [...] […] games on the way, I see a brighter holiday season for the PS3. It’s still going to be #3 (still a chump) this holiday season, but for gamers who already have the Wii and Xbox 360 and also a 1080p capable […]

]]> By: darkmoon http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-607300 darkmoon Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:05:33 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-607300 jbrandon - Your key problem with your point is this part: "..and foreign fanbase.." lol. Believe me. I don't have a PS3, and I still think it rocks the socks off 360 when to comes to what I want to play. But in North America, sports and FPS reign supreme. Don't ask me why since I've been a FPS player on PC since before Wolfenstein 3D and PC rocks the world of FPS. Console FPSes have always been pretty pathetic in my opinion due to the really linear shooting patterns coming from a joystick/gamepad versus a mouse. And do I really want to own NFL 2007? Not really. lol. But that's what drives this market on a whole. Give me a japanese console any day. The only thing I have an issue with currently is... well.. two issues. 1) Price. 2) Sony doesn't really listen to its players. It does well for doing that, but I think it'd be even better off if it actually paid attention to what's hot and pushed towards that. Like the huge MMORPG realm in Asia. I think it'd do well in NA if Sony provided the right servers for it. Just look at the craze behind Killzone: Liberation. It's incredible for a PSP game. jbrandon - Your key problem with your point is this part: “..and foreign fanbase..” lol. Believe me. I don’t have a PS3, and I still think it rocks the socks off 360 when to comes to what I want to play. But in North America, sports and FPS reign supreme. Don’t ask me why since I’ve been a FPS player on PC since before Wolfenstein 3D and PC rocks the world of FPS. Console FPSes have always been pretty pathetic in my opinion due to the really linear shooting patterns coming from a joystick/gamepad versus a mouse.

And do I really want to own NFL 2007? Not really. lol. But that’s what drives this market on a whole.

Give me a japanese console any day. The only thing I have an issue with currently is… well.. two issues. 1) Price. 2) Sony doesn’t really listen to its players. It does well for doing that, but I think it’d be even better off if it actually paid attention to what’s hot and pushed towards that. Like the huge MMORPG realm in Asia. I think it’d do well in NA if Sony provided the right servers for it. Just look at the craze behind Killzone: Liberation. It’s incredible for a PSP game.

]]> By: jbrandon http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-607218 jbrandon Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:03:34 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-607218 I think you are underestimating the ring of death problem. It is so widely reported now that consumers are going to start thinking of the 360 as a failure -- which is amazing considering how many have been sold and the great games (Gears of War -- way better than Halo, by the way). But MS needs a sustained megahit for the 360 to be profitable, not just a big seller or great games. Meanwhile, I see the Wii as a fad. Once you've played through a few games, you realize it is ONE GAME, sort of a console that just does Guitar Hero. I am in the minority I know, but I think the PS3 has the most power, corporate backing, and foreign fanbase to beat the 360. I think you are underestimating the ring of death problem. It is so widely reported now that consumers are going to start thinking of the 360 as a failure — which is amazing considering how many have been sold and the great games (Gears of War — way better than Halo, by the way). But MS needs a sustained megahit for the 360 to be profitable, not just a big seller or great games. Meanwhile, I see the Wii as a fad. Once you’ve played through a few games, you realize it is ONE GAME, sort of a console that just does Guitar Hero. I am in the minority I know, but I think the PS3 has the most power, corporate backing, and foreign fanbase to beat the 360.

]]> By: darkmoon http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-606592 darkmoon Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:46:37 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-606592 I agree with the Wii thing. From what I'm hearing, rumors are that a lot of that could be possible soon. Who knows really. Without having a development system, and only having the enduser, I think the Wii has the capabilities and infrastructure built in, but they're holding back (for whatever stupid reason). Yes, the bowling thing would be great..... Microsoft's online experience? ehh... So far, while there's many good things about the Marketplace, I have to say that it would excite me as much as the flash game sites excite me. Which is about nihil. If I'm playing online, I want to play games that are graphically capable via the console. Like my latest online conquests has been Killzone: Liberation for the PSP. So far, marketplace stuff only has one thing that I might be sorta interested in: Geometry Wars... and even so, it's only a fleeting thing at that. I don't think the hardware thing will be an issue for Microsoft like Au does (and much like your analysis). Just look at the stock. firmware hoses, and the price doesn't even budge. No way in hell that they'll be the lowball. PS3 might for one more year... when the good games start rolling though in 2008, you might be seeing a mighty surge. I won't be rash and predict it'll take over 360, not in North America where people actually like the genre that I prefer on PC... but I'll say that I definitely would be curious to world-wide numbers. I think that when it comes down to graphic intense games, 360 is the only competitor to PS3. And that makes a big diff in RPGs like Square Enix type games. Blue Dragon? From what I've seen you might be able to port that to Wii even since it's much like ... Valkyrie Profile style (can't think of anything else off top of my head, but I think the point is made). Stuff like the new Killzone and Prototype and Assassin's Creed will be the market that 360 and PS3 will battle on. In the end, Microsoft still needs to get their heads out of their butts with hardware design. It's sort of pathetic. I mean, there is such a thing called stress testing. But outside of all the rambling, you're right. Monkey in the middle again. I agree with the Wii thing. From what I’m hearing, rumors are that a lot of that could be possible soon. Who knows really. Without having a development system, and only having the enduser, I think the Wii has the capabilities and infrastructure built in, but they’re holding back (for whatever stupid reason). Yes, the bowling thing would be great…..

Microsoft’s online experience? ehh… So far, while there’s many good things about the Marketplace, I have to say that it would excite me as much as the flash game sites excite me. Which is about nihil. If I’m playing online, I want to play games that are graphically capable via the console. Like my latest online conquests has been Killzone: Liberation for the PSP. So far, marketplace stuff only has one thing that I might be sorta interested in: Geometry Wars… and even so, it’s only a fleeting thing at that.

I don’t think the hardware thing will be an issue for Microsoft like Au does (and much like your analysis). Just look at the stock. firmware hoses, and the price doesn’t even budge. No way in hell that they’ll be the lowball. PS3 might for one more year… when the good games start rolling though in 2008, you might be seeing a mighty surge. I won’t be rash and predict it’ll take over 360, not in North America where people actually like the genre that I prefer on PC… but I’ll say that I definitely would be curious to world-wide numbers.

I think that when it comes down to graphic intense games, 360 is the only competitor to PS3. And that makes a big diff in RPGs like Square Enix type games. Blue Dragon? From what I’ve seen you might be able to port that to Wii even since it’s much like … Valkyrie Profile style (can’t think of anything else off top of my head, but I think the point is made). Stuff like the new Killzone and Prototype and Assassin’s Creed will be the market that 360 and PS3 will battle on.

In the end, Microsoft still needs to get their heads out of their butts with hardware design. It’s sort of pathetic. I mean, there is such a thing called stress testing. But outside of all the rambling, you’re right. Monkey in the middle again.

]]> By: TDavid http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-606585 TDavid Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:18:51 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-606585 Don't you like competing against other people or for high scores in the arcade of the world, darkmoon? Why can't you and I play Wii Sports bowling for example? If competing against other players isn't high on one's list, then the whole Xbox Live scene won't be a big motivator for those looking to buy a system. If/when you do buy an Xbox 360 and play over live, I think you'd have a different opinion. Microsoft is the closest to providing a complete social gaming experience of all three. For me that's the biggest draw of the Xbox 360 over the other two consoles. Very few PS3 games have this kind of across the world gameplay and last time I checked zero games on the Wii have this playability. It's almost like Nintendo wants to keep the Wii games in your home only. The Mii thing has possibilities, but they haven't fully tapped them yet. Maybe they will and if it happens soon enough, they could steal a lot of Xbox 360 thunder on the Live front. Microsoft definitely needs a better presence in the Japanese market, which continues to be a huge feather in the cap of Nintendo and Sony. No disputing that. But to the question by Au: do you think Xbox 360 will be this year's PS3 during this holiday season? I don't. Will it outsell the PS3? Yes. The Wii? Doubtful. Monkey in the middle. Don’t you like competing against other people or for high scores in the arcade of the world, darkmoon? Why can’t you and I play Wii Sports bowling for example? If competing against other players isn’t high on one’s list, then the whole Xbox Live scene won’t be a big motivator for those looking to buy a system. If/when you do buy an Xbox 360 and play over live, I think you’d have a different opinion. Microsoft is the closest to providing a complete social gaming experience of all three.

For me that’s the biggest draw of the Xbox 360 over the other two consoles. Very few PS3 games have this kind of across the world gameplay and last time I checked zero games on the Wii have this playability. It’s almost like Nintendo wants to keep the Wii games in your home only. The Mii thing has possibilities, but they haven’t fully tapped them yet. Maybe they will and if it happens soon enough, they could steal a lot of Xbox 360 thunder on the Live front.

Microsoft definitely needs a better presence in the Japanese market, which continues to be a huge feather in the cap of Nintendo and Sony. No disputing that.

But to the question by Au: do you think Xbox 360 will be this year’s PS3 during this holiday season? I don’t. Will it outsell the PS3? Yes. The Wii? Doubtful. Monkey in the middle.

]]> By: darkmoon http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-606574 darkmoon Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:05:31 +0000 http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070724/4664/#comment-606574 When the PS3 comes around the $299 or $250 mark, I'll be looking at it. Just too expensive right now although it still in my opinion has the best games. Of course, we've visited this before. 360 gaming industry is still stuck in the whole FPS/sports genre way more than PS3. Differece in systems just like the Mac and PC worlds. Just look at the import scene... PS3 is literally killing the 360. Also, like we've visited before, the Home scenario and Playstation Store has to rock for them to compete online. I think it's possible, but Sony needs to get their heads out of their butts to make it happen. I personally think Nintendo has a better chance at this. Will I be buying a PS3 in the future? Definitely. 360? Nah. Only game I even am slightly curious about is Blue Dragon. Not worth my money for 1 single game. PS3 will have it slow surge when RE5 and MGS4 come out. Just like the PSP is surging now that there's a bit of superior games unlike the beginning. When it comes to lengthy cut scenes for RPGs, Sony consoles win out hands down. When the PS3 comes around the $299 or $250 mark, I’ll be looking at it. Just too expensive right now although it still in my opinion has the best games. Of course, we’ve visited this before. 360 gaming industry is still stuck in the whole FPS/sports genre way more than PS3. Differece in systems just like the Mac and PC worlds. Just look at the import scene… PS3 is literally killing the 360.

Also, like we’ve visited before, the Home scenario and Playstation Store has to rock for them to compete online. I think it’s possible, but Sony needs to get their heads out of their butts to make it happen. I personally think Nintendo has a better chance at this.

Will I be buying a PS3 in the future? Definitely. 360? Nah. Only game I even am slightly curious about is Blue Dragon. Not worth my money for 1 single game.

PS3 will have it slow surge when RE5 and MGS4 come out. Just like the PSP is surging now that there’s a bit of superior games unlike the beginning. When it comes to lengthy cut scenes for RPGs, Sony consoles win out hands down.

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