Lists of 1080p games available for Xbox 360 and PS3Xbox 360, customer adventures, television, gaming — by TDavid @ 9:54 am PST
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Update 9/29/07 9:24am PST: In the 2+ months since publishing these lists, I’ve learned that the game boxes don’t tell the complete truth about native 1080p games, thus prompting me to update and correct certain parts of the original post below in the interest of accuracy. I’ve tried to strike the original text that was wrong rather than replace. I’ve also updated both 1080p lists, and continue to update the lists since this was published, in case you, like I, remain interested in what games are available in native 1080p, and what games are advertised on game boxes “supporting” 1080p. Big difference, read on.
When the Playstation 3 first came out remember the huge Sony emphasis on 1080p games?
Since I didn’t have a 1080p capable television at the time and didn’t plan on buying one before getting the PS3, I didn’t pay that much attention to the scene nor how many titles actually supported the higher resolution (1920×1080).
It’s been some 8 months since the PS3 launched in America and now that we own a TV capable of viewing 1080p games and movies and have an Xbox 360 Elite and PS3 hooked up via HDMI cable, I decided to research what games are available for each system that output up to 1080p resolution natively. On the movie format front, if you check out EproductWars, Blu-Ray is stomping all over HD-DVD in nearly every category, but how does the 1080p games landscape appear?
The coverage from gaming sites on 1080p supported titles is a bit anemic out there, at least through my Google searches (maybe there are better queries?). Add to that, too many game reviews that don’t clearly profile whether or not games are capable of 1080p. And where is a sortable or chronological list of available now 1080p games from heavy hitter gaming sites like 1up.com? I’m not interested in games that are coming out in the future with 1080p support, what games can we go out and buy right now that support 1080p?
Seems like all that emphasis by Sony to stamp 1080p in our brains hasn’t translated very well to the gaming web yet. Perhaps because getting into a 1080p capable TV still costs over $1,000? I’m sure some good gaming resources exist out there for 1080p owners somewhere but my research so far hasn’t borne much fruit. In fact, I found at least one list that showed games that were 1080p that actually aren’t like Resistance Fall of Man which is 720p.
And the winner of the most available native 1080p games goes to … Xbox 360 PS3
As of this writing to my surprise I learned that the Xbox 360 actually has advertises on game boxes more 1080p games (34) available than the PS3 (17). Twice as many as the PS3, wow. Surprising considering that there is a smaller number of Xbox 360 Elite systems sold with HDMI cable output than traditional Xbox 360.
It’s important to note the use of the word “native” in the bolded text above. I realize that back on May 24 of this year with PS3 firmware upgrade 1.8 the PS3 upscales DVDs, PS1 and PS2 games to 1080p:
The capability to upscale DVDs to HD quality is a feature normally only associated with top range DVD players, and its inclusion in the latest firmware upgrade now allows PS3 owners with an existing DVD collection to dramatically enhance the viewing pleasure of their DVD collection when viewed through a compatible HD TV set1. Not only can DVD movies be enhanced to full 1080p HD quality but so too will PlayStation 2 and PlayStation games be upscaled to provide much improved gaming pleasure.
Those aren’t native 1080p games and not what I’m tracking. I’m looking for games that were specifically made to support 1080p resolution. Most games produced in the last few years have targeted 720p.
You’d think with all the push to buy these big, fancy LCD and plasma televisions that there would be a lot more than 50 games that actually support 1080p resolution natively released, wouldn’t you? Or do you think that’s a good number at this time? It does appear that more and more new game titles support 1080p, so the developers are ramping up. Chances are very good if you buy a movie to game title, it supports 1080p like The Transformers, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Also, I found it interesting that some cross platform titles are 1080p on one system but not on the other like Icon (advertises 1080p on Xbox 360, but not on PS3). This happens more often with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so one shouldn’t assume that because one title on the Xbox 360 is 1080p the same title on the PS3 will be or vice versa.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of the number of PS3 sold to Xbox 360 Elite as I’m guessing there are more PS3 sold than Xbox 360 Elite. Is anybody reading aware of a published comparison (link) somewhere? While it is possible to receive 1080p output through a component cable using a limited number of LCD/Plasma TVs, most non-Xbox 360 Elite owners aren’t getting 1080p through component cable. This is something else I learned in my research. I wasn’t aware you could get 1080p in another way besides using an HDMI cable. Also learned that you can only watch Blu-ray at 1080p through an HDMI cable, not using component cables, which is something Sony chose to enforce through their Blu-Ray specs.
The following lists of 1080p games should give other new 1080p capable TV owners the ability to print the list and go to the store straight to the game titles of interest. Or, if you have a mobile device capable of surfing the web, just bookmark the pages below and recall whenever you need them.
The 1080p lists
You can view each 1080p games list at the following pages which will continue to be updated as more games are verified:
Xbox 360 1080p games (update 9/29/07 to include separate list for game box advertised 1080p)
PS3 1080p games
Corrections, additions and updates
I’m certain these compiled lists are incomplete, so please help by suggesting games for Xbox 360 / PS3 that support 1080p in the comments below that you have personally verified are 1080p compatible. Also if you have a correction for something listed that’s not 1080p that is listed as supported, please leave that comment below.
In every case on the 1080p game lists I’ve personally confirmed 1080p support either by the print on the back of the game box or buying/renting/playing the game at 1080p myself. Please only suggest games for the lists that are available in stores now as these lists are intended to be useful to others wanting to be able to shop/rent/play confirmed 1080p titles.
I’m also considering taking screenshots of some of these games to go with the lists and/or categorizing them further (genre, rating, review, etc). It really depends on the interest level from others how far these lists are taken in the future.
Related Posts- List of PS3 1080p games
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- Gripshift playable demo available in Playstation store
- Xbox 360 vs. PS3 same game title graphics comparison
- PS3 adds new games: Flow, Qbert and Virtua Fighter 5
The only thing you haven’t considered, and hence why this article doesn’t make me go ‘hmmm’ as much as it could, is the percentage of games that are 1080p.
Of over 300 released games, the Xbox 360 only has 10% of it’s games available in native 1080p.
Of only around 45 games released so far the PS3 has 40% of it’s games available in native 1080p.
The Xbox 360 had a year of sales ahead of the PS3 and Wii so it’s not a surprise that there are more titles available. 1080p games have been relatively recent for the X360 whereas the PS3 has had them from the launch title set. You may remember that when MS announced 1080p and the HD-DVD drive they had zero 1080p games available to take advantage of the new resolution - hence Sony continuing to make a big deal of their native support.
Another thing to remember is most of the 1080p titles on the X360 run at 30 fps. Most of the PS3 1080p titles run at 60 fps. Important X360 titles like Halo 3 are supposed to be released at 1080p/60 support. There’s even been a buzz about some EA titles being ‘crippled’ so they run at 60 fps on the X360 and 30 fps on the PS3. But the thing to note is that largely the PS3 hardware is better suited to, and therefore easily runs, most 1080p titles at 60 fps - that will continue until the Xbox 720 comes out!
Comment by DolphGB — July 22, 2007 @ 5:15 am PST
Actually, and perhaps just semantics, I consider the Xbox 360 Elite the system that compares to the PS3 and that wasn’t launched until late April of this year, DolphGB, giving the Xbox 360 a much smaller subset of titles since that time. Overall probably still more releases than the PS3, but if you look at the percentage of titles since April I’m thinking we’d see the 40% or more figure you cited. The reason being that getting 1080p on the non-Elite system requires a TV that can support 1080p through a component cable of which their aren’t many and is mentioned in the post.
Your point is a good one, but to me anyway it seems like with the original Xbox 360 Microsoft didn’t focus on 1080p anywhere near like Sony has done, probably because Sony wanted to push Blu-Ray as much as or more than gaming on the PS3. At least with Blu-Ray which is beating up on HD-DVD, that strategy is working, however the sales of Blu-Ray are still dwarfed by DVD sales, which ultimately could spell doom for the format.
As for the 30 FPS vs. 60 FPS, another good point, I wish that information was made available in greater abundance as well for comparison purposes. It’s almost like those with 1080p are in a special high end niche where game reviewers typically don’t provide that level of scrutiny. Before having a 1080p capable TV I didn’t realize this, but now I’m seeing it and feeling like these reviews are mising something.
Finally, it’s good to see that more and more newer titles support 1080p, so it’s becoming something that developers for both systems are realizing is important.
Comment by TDavid — July 22, 2007 @ 7:01 am PST
All good replies, except for this one:
“the original Xbox 360 Microsoft didn’t focus on 1080p anywhere near like Sony has done”
That’s because the original didn’t support 1080p. It had 720p and 1080i support. Hence why Sony’s marketing team correctly focussed on it, since the Xbox couldn’t do it at all. As I said, even when they upgraded it in November 2006, there were not 1080p titles available to play on it.
Which kind of invalidates the whole ‘component cable’ issue also. That is, after all, how MS brought 1080p to the market so you should just run with November 2006 as your start date. Since MS have released 200 games in 2007, I’d suggest we can go with 20% as a fair percentage - still half of what Sony have managed so far.
You’re also right about the future. The amount of titles Sony have announced before March 2008 (380 new games) will include a large amount of 1080p/60fps titles. All very exciting stuff.
Comment by DolphGB — July 22, 2007 @ 8:14 am PST
DolphGB - when I used “original Xbox 360″ I meant the non-Elite one, not the first system that ever came out. The point is that most TVs you can buy don’t support 1080p through component cable so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to compare the Xbox 360 until one was available with an HDMI port — and that was and is the Elite which came out in late April. That’s when 1080p really became a consideration for me anyway with the Xbox 360 at least. Perhaps others will feel that when Microsoft patched the non-Elite for 1080p that was the proper starting point where they entered the 1080p game.
I agree that for comparative purposes the date that the Xbox 360 began to support 1080p in any fashion would be the technical start date to use, so November it is, however, you can’t really fairly compare a system that was patched to include 1080p support to one that comes with native support, can you? I’m thinking most consumers will see the Elite as a 1080p Xbox 360, not the non-Elite. Hardcore gamers went out and bought the Elite (like we did) or bought one of those LCD or plasma that support 1080p through component to get the experience.
Hopefully none of this makes it sound like I’m trying to favor the Xbox 360 over the PS3 or vice versa in my research on the subject. The 1080p stuff is all pretty new to me and I haven’t had time to develop any personal biases yet on the subject. I did expect to find more 1080p PS3 titles than the Xbox 360 based purely from an advertising in the past perspective but that wasn’t intended as a slam against Sony, simply a curious finding during my research thus far. Whether that number is 10% or 20% or __% of the overall 1080p titles produced to date is not as relevant a point to me as what is happening right now? What titles are available right now in 1080p for both systems?
Frankly, I was a bit disappointed that the combined 1080p titles for both systems was well under 100 games. That’s not a very big library yet to choose from. I suspect this coming holiday season will be the 1080p games rush and hopefully by next year we’ll have hundreds of 1080p titles to choose from.
On another personal opinion note, so far I actually prefer the sharpness of the PS3 menu screens at 1080p to the Xbox 360 blade interface which appears a bit cloudy to me, at least on our new TV. I hope they both support as many 1080p games in the future as possible.
Here’s something else I found that doesn’t make sense and maybe you or somebody else knows the answer who’s reading. The original Dead or Alive 4 for the Xbox 360 only showed support up to 720p and yet when they released as a Platinum Hits title on the back of the box it was updated to 1080p. I know this because we have two copies of the game, one the original and the newer one which we bought this weekend is the Platinum Hits boxed version. Did they tweak DOA4 or did it support 1080p all along and the original box was listed wrong? Or, is this as you pointed in your comment above, since the original Xbox 360 didn’t support 1080p, was it not worth advertising?
Interesting conversation, thanks for stopping by
Comment by TDavid — July 22, 2007 @ 8:48 am PST
You bet - and thanks for putting the list together in the first place.
I’m just waiting on the price of 1080p TVs to drop down in the UK (since we pay more for everything over here). I expect they’ll be at around the £700 mark by Christmas and then I’ll make my move. By then I know there will be a whole bunch of PS3 exclusives and 3rd-party titles that are going to take advantage of 1080p/60 so it’ll be good timing.
Cheers…
Comment by DolphGB — July 22, 2007 @ 10:10 am PST
[…] The PS3 doesn’t even have the most 1080p games. […]
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Just to add to the list Gears of War works in 1080p through the component cables, Sharp Aquous’ seem to be capable of excepting 1080p through component, however on the 1080p statement for the X360 some titles are just being upscaled similar to how the PS3 takes DVD’s and PS2 games and upscales them to 1080p. Being how the X360 originally incorporated the 1080p standard, after seeing Gears played at both 720p and 1080p on the same TV I could notice little difference except slightly slower frame rate and moments of lag, probably because the game is incredibly demanding as is. But I’m not sure if any of what I’ve said can be completely true, just my two cents so to speak.
Comment by Alex — July 24, 2007 @ 11:12 pm PST
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Just a couple of quick comments. Tekken five wich I dont even think is still avaible for download on the PS3 is a beutifull native 1080p game however there are some stages that come around that are just simply not 1080p! Also Pirates of the Carribean is by far the worst display of 1080p I’ve ever seen. It looks like ps2 graphics! MLB the show 07 is great looking at 1080p but plays really sluggish if not set at 720.
I guess game developers need to get there poop together!
Comment by Carlos — August 16, 2007 @ 6:42 am PST
NBA Live 07 HDTV 480p/720p/1080pi
Sonic The Hedgehog HDTV 720p/1080i/1080p
Comment by JOONAS — August 29, 2007 @ 1:31 pm PST
Hi, i own a games shop and have checked all the following xbox 360 games as being 1080p compatible firsthand by the back of the game box :
Stuntman Ignition
Moto GP 07
Colin Mc Rae Dirt
Transformers
Flatout Ultimate Carnage
The Darkness
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
Def Jam Icon (announced by EA as 1080p native)
Strangely, none of our PS3 games have 1080p put on their boxes but i would be very surprised if they are not 1080p also.
Bye.
Comment by mrpapaye — September 3, 2007 @ 4:17 am PST
i confirm with my Elite HDMI and Full HDTV samsung with 1:1 mapping, and after image analyze, that only two X360 game are native 1080p, VT3 and NBA street, that’s all. all the others of the list wich are also aviable on the demo marketplace are 1280×720
Comment by upsilandre — September 6, 2007 @ 9:04 pm PST
and the PS3 XMB (and all its function/application) is native 1080p not the Dashboard (720p upscaled for 1080p mode)
Comment by upsilandre — September 6, 2007 @ 9:24 pm PST
This is list informative and all, except for the fact that EVERY 360 game is playable in 1080p. the 360 upscales everything, so a list of available 1080p games on the 360 is incredibly misleading. The only games that should be on that list are the 2 or 3 native 1080p games. The PS3 games that are in 1080p are native, since the PS3 has no upscaler (at least not on the level of the 360). So, it should be more like more like 3 vs. 21. In fact, I have no idea where you came up with your list of 36 games that are available in 1080p. For the record, I own both sytems and have them both outputting at 1080p.
Anyhow, I was looking for a list of the handful of games that are native 1080p on 360, and this provided it. Thanks!
Comment by GrfxGuy — September 11, 2007 @ 2:07 pm PST
Playstation 1080p games.
source(Finland): http://fi.playstation.com/games-media/browse/ps3/
You can change the country from the flag(up in the page)…Games&media…Browse games…select format=playstation3
Games like:
WipEout HD, Lair ,Gran Turismo 5 Prologue/ Gran Turismo HD Concept, Ridge Racer 7, Nucleus, Flow, Super Rup ‘a’ Dub, Go Puzzle, Go sudoku all levels… some are not yet available, but will be released in 1080p and some of these games only available in playstation network(also at 1080p).
-Right?
-Do you have a another list of games soon to be released in full HD?
-Do you have a another list of 1080p games only available in playstation network?
-thank you
Comment by Naami — September 12, 2007 @ 6:10 am PST
Hi,
What are u all talking about?
An image has a fixed resolution, a video file has a fix resolution to, so they can be upscaled, downscaled and can be said to have a “native” resolution. But a game does not, a game is rendered, unless it’s based on a movie/image files like myst.
the only reason a game would not support 1080 is because it would be to slow to render, may have an average of 15fps, so would be unplayable. I personally rather have more games maxed at 720 with better visual than have reduced polygon count, lesser anisotropic filtering and smaller texture so it can be run, with an acceptable frame rate, at a rez of 1080.
if you would like an example, download bioshock demo for the pc, max out the setting then play it a 1024×768, then 1600×1200. compare their frame rate.
Comment by frank — September 19, 2007 @ 10:09 am PST
it’s not correct
console games have native rendering resolution and upscale/downscale for TV video mode compatibility
Comment by upsilandre — September 20, 2007 @ 9:34 am PST
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I’ve just written and published an important follow-up post to my research and details behind these lists of 1080p games here:
http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070929/4832/
The lists continue to be updated as recent as today and will continue to be updated as I learn and confirm more 1080p titles — both native and box advertised (keep reading).
That’s right, I’ve now split the Xbox 360 list into two: one that is box advertised 1080p and another that is native 1080p. There are only two native 1080p titles on the Xbox 360 that I’ve been able to confirm with multiple third party sources since publishing these lists over the last 2+ months. If/when there are more, please continue to let me know in this comment area.
Finally, I’ve added an update to the original post above to, hopefully, make things more clear for others like me interested in playing and maybe buying native 1080p games.
Happy gaming to you!
Comment by TDavid — September 29, 2007 @ 9:31 am PST
Most games on the PS3 aren’t rendering at 1920×1080, rather they are rendering at 960*1080 and using the horizontal scaler to stretch the output so it can display on older 1080i sets.
Comment by Will — September 29, 2007 @ 11:27 am PST
i know none PS3 games in 960×1080, among games with 1080p output i know several games in 1920×1080, one in 1600×1080, one in 1440×1080 and one in 1280×1080 but none in 960×1080
Comment by upsilandre — September 30, 2007 @ 12:22 pm PST
is there a way to find if a game is native 1080p, or upscaled to 1080p when it’s not written on the box ?
Comment by roma — September 30, 2007 @ 4:02 pm PST
Now Halo 3 comes.. and it sin 640p… rofl
Comment by evotech — October 1, 2007 @ 3:36 am PST
yes, there is a method, for example it’s me which discovered the 640p native resolution of Halo3
Comment by upsilandre — October 1, 2007 @ 3:52 am PST
TDavid your list is sheet
Good list from Beyond3D:
Full Auto 2: 1920×1080 AA 4x, bad framerate - PS3
NBA Street: 1920×1080 AA 4x (30-60fps) - 360
LocoRoco Cocoreccho 1920×1080 MSAA 2x -PS3
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1040×585 AA - 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1280×720 - PS3
Virtua Tennis 3: 1920×1080 AA 2x - PS3, 360
XMB: 1920×1080p - PS3
Dashboard: 1280×720p - 360
Perfect Dark Zero: 1138×640p - 360
Halo 3: 1152×640p - 360
Call of Duty 3: 1120×630p 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma: 1280×720p PS3
Project Gotham Racing 3: 1024×600 360
Tomb Raider: 1024×600 360
Ridge Racer 7:1920×1080 (no AA)
RR6 X360 is 1440×810 (good for fill the EDRAM without AA)
Tekken 5 HD with native 1920×1080 without AA - PS3
NBA 07: 1920×1080 - PS3
NBA 08: 1920×1080 - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 600p - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 720p - 360
GRAW2: 720p - PS3
GRAW2: 720p AA 2x - 360
Super Rub a Dub: 1600×1080 - PS3
GTHD: 1440×1080 - PS3
Super Stardust HD: 1280×1080 - PS3
Skate: 1536×864 - PS3
Skate: 1280×720 AA - 360
Bioshock: 1280×720 - 360
Harry Potter: 1280×720 MSAA 2x PS3 ?
Pixel Junk Racers: 1920×1080 PS3
Heavenly Sword: 1280×720 AA 4x PS3
Blast Factor Demo: 1920×1080 PS3
The Darkness Demo: 1024×576 PS3
Comment by cavarr — October 6, 2007 @ 12:51 am PST
Who cares about the Graphics, i think the Wii proved it doesnt matter. If a game is no fun to play, whats the point of it being pretty. The XBOX 360 is a better system than the PS3, Yeah yeah….it had a year headstart, but compare 1st year games 360vsPS3 360 is much more fun. I still think the PS2 is better that the PS3.
Comment by Bildo — October 6, 2007 @ 1:52 am PST
lol, it’s my list
Comment by upsilandre — October 6, 2007 @ 9:59 am PST
I’d just like that the 360 is limited by the component cables to a maximum of 1080i and after doing a bit of reseaerch,i discovered that the only way that 1080p is obtainable through the old x360 is through the vga cables.I’ve just bought a 1080p lcd tv and it happily runs at 1920*1080 but when i used my component cables,it said “out of range”.I looked on the xbox website and other sources and found that it was to do with constraints on the older x360’s themselves. p.s. why have you listed The Darkness as 1080p on the ps3 and not on the x360? I have just checked the box,and it clearly says it is 1080p on the x360; i tested it and there is a massive difference.
Comment by simon houston — October 8, 2007 @ 6:16 am PST
You sure about Call of Duty 3 on the 360? I heard that it was one of the few 360 games that ran at less than 720p (like PGR3 and Halo 3).
Comment by Henning — October 18, 2007 @ 8:48 am PST
Yeah, at least half of the games in the “list of PS3 1080p games” are not native-1080p. A few aren’t even 720p. The Darkness upscales from 560p on PS3, and Pirates of the Caribbean is 960×720 (both are 720p native on 360).
“Sony doesn’t advertise 1080p on the back of game boxes unless it is a truly native 1080p title.”
This part isn’t true. Sony list all supported output resolutions on the box, but until recently not many PS3 games would scale to 1080p.
Comment by daniel — November 10, 2007 @ 4:42 pm PST
daniel - “Sony list all supported output resolutions on the box” — Indeed they do, but even newer titles like Warhawk do not show 1080p, so explain that? Just takes a trip to your local Best Buy and look for yourself.
Please — anybody — provide specific title examples where Sony advertises 1080p on the back of the game box that isn’t 1080p. You should read this follow-up piece where I show specific examples: http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070929/4832/
I’m not saying Sony doesn’t, so please don’t confuse my tone, only I haven’t found even one case where that has happened, where in Microsoft’s case the Xbox 360 is littered with titles that muddy up the water over the whole “supported” versus actually being native 1080p. I’m interested in any data that can be independently verified that will help make the lists better. Anybody who wants to provide this data, please provide the tools used for benchmark/testing. That would help me in confirming what’s on the list is accurate.
Thanks.
Comment by TDavid — November 10, 2007 @ 6:27 pm PST
“The Orange Box” and “Scene It” for the xbox 360 both have 1080p on the back.
Comment by pz700u — January 25, 2008 @ 8:52 am PST
http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Team_Ninja_720p_Optimal_Resolution_For_PS3_11143_6224_0.htm
Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PS3 game) is 720p.
The developers said it MANY times (that link isn’t the only story about it).
Comment by BLX — January 28, 2008 @ 9:17 am PST
You are missing Every Extend Extra Extreme, which is 1080p native on the 360.
Also, PS3 games need to say what resolutions they support because people with 1080i only TVs can’t run games that only run in 720p on the PS3. There is no such issue with the 360 because every game can be scaled to 1080i or any other dashboard supported resolution on the 360.
I don’t see how upscaling every game ever made for the system to any resolution could possibly be considered a bad thing.
Comment by Josh — February 6, 2008 @ 10:17 am PST
“Id just like that the 360 is limited by the component cables to a maximum of 1080i and after doing a bit of reseaerch,i discovered that the only way that 1080p is obtainable through the old x360 is through the vga cables.Ive just bought a 1080p lcd tv and it happily runs at 1920*1080 but when i used my component cables,it said out of range”
Your TV is at fault here, not the 360, for not supporting 1080p via component. My Sony A3000 TV supports 1080p via component, and it works fine with my circa 2006 360.
Comment by Josh — February 6, 2008 @ 10:22 am PST
Just a note to all But were you aware that Microsoft owns the rights for 1080p gaming!
that is why you see 1080p on most x-box 360 games. I-E
EA sports NHL 08 on the
xbox 360 = 1080p
ps3 = 780p
Now Sony has worked out a deal with Microsoft to allow the ps3 system to release some cross platform titles in 1080p however at this point if you are looking for 1080p in the future xbox 360 would be the way to go! also have you noticed that the games that are exclusive to sony are the games that are 1080p? take a look crazy I know but this information comes right from The sony retail store by the head manager. not that that means much but take a look into it
I own both ps3 and the 360 and although the 360 has more games in 1080p the ps3 has stole my heart! lol
Comment by Joshua — February 19, 2008 @ 2:45 am PST
Joshua…you either have a few screws loose or you are trolling.
Microsoft doesn’t “own” the rights to 1080p gaming. It’s a screen resolution specification, not a patentable technology. My PC I’m writing on right now can output all sorts of resolutions, 720p, 768p, 1080p, 1200p, 1600p…this isn’t anything special.
And whoever is talking about 30fps vs 60fps is also taking crazy pills. Unless they are specifically capped, games will run as fast as the GPU can pump out frames. For some games that may APPROXIMATE 30 fps or 60 fps but most often it will be anywhere inbetween depending on the action going on in the scene and the number of details that need to be rendered. Frame rate is not a constant folks unless you are talking TV broadcasts or Film which are generally 60 fps and 23.97 fps respectively. If you want to make the argument that certain cross platform games run better or worse on a PS3 or an Xbox 360, that’s fine. But there isn’t some magical switch that is flipped to enable 30fps vs 60fps.
The Xbox vs PS3 debate is just a bunch of hype. Everyone acts like the stupid box is their local sports team and there is ego on the line for one to be better than the other. I frankly fail to see how anyone can make a compelling factual case that either console is better than the other. Both have unique features and good exclusive games as well as pretty similar GPU and CPU specs in terms of real world output. It boils down to personal preference and what price vs. feature balance matters to you. The Wii isn’t even HD and it outsells boths the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Clearly having the biggest silicon dick isn’t the deciding factor on which console is best.
Just as a final thought, 1080p gaming is far from prime time. That’s why both the Xbox 360 and PS3 have develop 720p games as their minimum standard. The more resolution you try to coax out of a GPU, the less detail you can have and still maintain an acceptable framerate. For THIS generation, both Sony and Microsoft determined that 720p is the acceptable balance of both resolution and detail.
You won’t see ubiquitous 1080p gaming on consoles until the PS4 and Xbox 720…and even then it might be a crapshoot because adoption of 1080p TVs won’t be quite be universal.
Comment by J5 — March 17, 2008 @ 1:23 pm PST
Hey, thanks for posting this list. I found it extremely helpful and was the most inclusive 1080p games list available online.
When planning my home-gaming hardware purchases, I spent hours researching the differences between the latest gaming consoles. PS3 is a vastly superior system to XBox 360!
However it’s difficult to find 1080p games for the ps3. I won’t buy anything less since scaling is exagerated on a large screen. I must say Ninja Gaiden and Call of Duty 4 blew me away! Do you have an updated list for upcoming releases in 1080p?
Comment by Matt Copeland — March 20, 2008 @ 3:19 pm PST
hey who cares about the resolution..since when great games depends on graphic upscaling and resolution….
i own a ps3 but i tink its really good for sony to do the upgrade..
long live sony….
Comment by erp — March 30, 2008 @ 6:19 am PST
As for what i said. Microsoft! owns the rights to “1080P GAMING FOR CROSS PLATFORM GAMES in short they have contracts with most game producers to make sure there system gets first pick on what titles they want to produce in 1080p format.” not the rights to make 1080 tv’s and screen resolution.
Comment by josh — March 31, 2008 @ 10:58 am PST
I have been told that the 360 games stating 1080p is not true 1080p? What does that mean exactly? I have an 1080p LCD and am running component cables. I do know that you cant up-convert movies through component cables because of “some law” but movies will up-convert using HDMI and VGA. My TV will automatically tell you the resolution its displaying as soon as you put a game/movie in. My 360 Dashboard and some games is showing 1080p but movies are only 480p, so my question again is my 1080p games TRUE 1080p?
Comment by Kris — May 3, 2008 @ 4:49 am PST
This might have already been stated but ::: 360 puts 1080p compatible on the back of the box because the games are upscaled to tvs capable of 1080p. It isn’t native 1080p nor is it even real. X360 only has like 4 titles that are really 1080p. Sony doesn’t lie to you and when they put 1080p on a box it really is 1080p. They are somewhere in the 30’s for 1080p titles. So there you go. Good ole’ Microsoft…. hahaha
Comment by Michael — May 18, 2008 @ 2:25 pm PST
OK to clear up a few mis conceptions here since I’ve researched the topic significantly.
First off is to clear up the difference between component and HDMI. For movies such as HD-DVD and Blu-ray, the 360 can not out put to 1080p (as someone said above its to do with “laws”, well contracts), it can however output to 1080i/720p. That said however if you had a 1080p movie being streamed from you PC to the xbox 360 it could be displayed in 1080p. Its related to all the contractual obligations with hi-def movie studios, for instance did you know your blu-ray movies will not display at 1080p in Windows Vista? Nope they will be downscaled, not cos your PC can’t handle it, but because of various contracts.
Now on to games. The first thing to note is that whether thru component or HDMI both 360 and PS3 can physically output to 1080p component does not limit this, there is no issues with laws that prevent this.
However, the higher resolution obviously takes more processing power to output. So game makers have to balance their title actually looking good in game with lots (and lots) of explosions or characters on screen at the same time against how they output it. Plus game developers don’t want to spend the extra cash either, but in the case of the above titles, they are likely to have almost unlimited budgets and if they could output to 1080p they would I’m sure.
i.e. we can have a lot more happening on-screen(my estimate is probably 4 times as many) or have it out put at 1080p.
An example would be Virtua Tennis 4, not a lot goes on in this game therefore its not a big stretch to have it in 1080p, but Halo 3/Metal Gear Solid 4 - these action titles have a lot happening and therefore the respective consoles can’t handle 1080p and 720p (or in actual fact lower) is typically used.
Now I have to refute the claims from this site that Sony’s PS3 boxes apparently don’t lie about their 1080p support, because they do I’m afraid, therefore the list from this site for PS3 is completely unfounded. Sorry the sites a great idea, but simply the list isn’t valid.
The Darkness (1024×576) certainly is not, Tekken 5 certainly isn’t either.
The following are the only games that truly run in 1080p
Full Auto 2: 1920×1080 AA 4x, bad frame rate - PS3
NBA Street: 1920×1080 AA 4x (30-60fps) - 360
LocoRoco Cocoreccho 1920×1080 MSAA 2x -PS3
Virtua Tennis 3: 1920×1080 AA 2x - PS3, 360
NBA 07: 1920×1080 - PS3
NBA 08: 1920×1080 - PS3
Super Rub a Dub: 1600×1080 - PS3 (not true 1080p)
Super Stardust HD: 1280×1080 - PS3
Pixel Junk Racers: 1920×1080 PS3
Blast Factor Demo: 1920×1080 PS3
I’m not trying to be against either console, but the fact is the site is misrepresenting games and actually is not doing its self any favours.
GT5 Prologue is not in 1080p either, if it were so easy to have gorgeous games at 1080p both companies would have. The generation of consoles can’t yet display 1080p of detail in their games usefully yet, power of each is far better put into happenings on screen. And truth be told side by side, sat on your sofa you probably can’t tell either, for games anyway.
Comment by Noir — June 2, 2008 @ 1:38 am PST
Well in the end, I might be wrong but, as it seems to me I can’t see a definitive “final case” in either cases. Neither PS3 nor XBOX360 seems to live up to their own hype… What does make sense to me as previously stated by j5 is that (quote) “the more resolution you try to coax out of a GPU, the less detail you can have and still maintain an acceptable framerate.”
As it seems both hardwares are still coping with limitations despite their “Sithy” “POWER!” “UNLIMITED POWEERR!! boosting about” LOL. Older games on older consoles had pop-up/pop-in and/or frame rate issues and to a certain extent we are still coping with it now the the next-generation consoles. I just can’t get past the concept of next-generation consoles after seeing what happens on screen with GTA IV…. I mean it’s a great game but… I guess the only half-reliable answer can be found at the core of each single programming eg asking to the EA or others… yet I doubt they will all come forth saying it “as it is”. The Ana chip does look sassy to me although it does hv its advantages. What the PS3 does for upscaling, when it does it and how it does it I guess only the instructions given by each single video game programming can say. Does anybody knows what the situation is with Metal Gear Solid 4?? I mean that has been boasted as the “far best since…” Isn’t?? On the other end analyzing a single frame rate on a 50′LCD might shed some lights… yet that kind of analysis should pass through a computer with a dedicated software for the job. I agree with “Noir” that most of the times you would not notice the difference when sitting on your sofa but when comes down to big screens I guess you should be able to “spot the dot” so to speak… Is it really that hard to come up with some reliable info about it??
Comment by JD — June 20, 2008 @ 12:47 am PST
Noir your list is interesting. I am interested in knowing what tools have you used to come up with those figures. I mean did you run the test yourself. Where did you get those numbers and what monitor tv sets etc have you used?
Comment by JD — June 20, 2008 @ 3:07 am PST
then again the ps3 could be upscaling as much as the 360 does… until you are able to count all the lines on screen and spot contigous lines displaying noticeable different graphical information from the previous you will never be sure.
Comment by JD — June 20, 2008 @ 3:17 am PST
i was thinking that xbox 360 and ps3 has their own advantageous and not so good side.
comparing them is like trying to drown yourself on keeping pace of the two technologies
just to see where they are different. in the end, you lose. and manufacturers win.
i’m just tired of xbox vs ps3… *fanboy* videos..
Comment by MykeC — June 30, 2008 @ 6:14 pm PST
correct native resolutions for PS3 are: The Darkness is only 1024×576 (no AA); Ninja Gaiden SIGMA is 1280×720; Stardust HD is 1280×1080 (not FullHD); Transformers is 960×1080 (not FullHD)…
Comment by JJ8 — July 12, 2008 @ 5:17 pm PST
Noir can you tell me which tools you are using…
Comment by danny — July 27, 2008 @ 11:50 am PST
Just a note to all But were you aware that Microsoft owns the rights for 1080p gaming!
that is why you see 1080p on most x-box 360 games. I-E
Comment by 2greedy — August 2, 2008 @ 10:52 pm PST
Thanks for the list, all i’m missing now, is the 1090p HDtv to go with the games! lol!
Comment by nickyj83 — August 11, 2008 @ 8:53 am PST
i bought a ps3 a little while ago and so excited about 1080p stuff high defination stuff is really cool at they make you look kool.
Comment by MOin — September 3, 2008 @ 6:00 am PST
thanks for compiling a huge list it will make me busy for a little while now thanks a lot
Comment by MOin — September 3, 2008 @ 6:01 am PST
Pixel Junk Monsters is advertised as 1080p Native Resolution (plus trophies
Comment by Eric — October 8, 2008 @ 7:26 am PST