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July 18, 2007

Wow 1080p, yowsa!

Xbox 360, customer adventures, television, gaming — by TDavid @ 5:37 pm PST

After spending some more one on one time with a new 1080p TV, I’m impressed with how much better the picture is than 1080i. Didn’t think it could be that big a difference and boy was I wrong.

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

This coming weekend Best Buy is running a Reward Zone member promotion for 10-12% off TVs and other goodies. I’ve had my eye on several different 1080p LCDs since buying a PS3 but the price has always been too high for the ones that looked the best. I’ve been tracking this 42″ Westinghouse from $1,800+ down to $1,100 but the picture quality doesn’t seem to compare to other 1080p LCD TVs that were in the $2,000-4,000+ range (formerly in the $3,000-6,000+ range).

Never say never, but I can’t see us spending over $2,000 on a television. In all but one case of television purchases over the year in our family, we’ve spent less than $750. I haven’t seen a 1080p HDTV for under $750 but there might be some really low-end model out there somewhere. As the prices continue to fall within a year we should see 1080p HDTVs for around $750 or less — our household TV buying hotzone.

But I couldn’t wait another year.

Last night we purchased the Samsung 40″ 1080p Flat-Panel LCD HDTV Model: LN-T4066F (see Best Buy online listing here) which regularly sells for $2,299 and was on sale for $1,999. The manager approved the promotional 10% discount a few days early and thus we came home with this black beauty early for $500 off the regular price ($1,799). Nice. This makes the list as the second most expensive TV we’ve ever purchased. Our 61″ Panasonic projection TV which we bought at Sears over 10 years ago — and has since gone to TV heaven — cost just under $2,000.

We also purchased the four year extended warranty ($250) for the TV and a 900 watt UPS tower with surge protector ($179). The total bill with tax ran just under $2,500. None of this went on credit since we’re still in the midst of our no credit cards experiment.

Here’s some additional details and pictures which with compressing for web and my subpar photography don’t really do justice to the actual Samsung LCD TV.

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

There is a special “game mode” that enhances the TV for videogaming. I have the PS3 and Xbox 360 Elite both hooked up via 1080p. In the case of the Xbox 360, it automatically detected 1080p on boot, but with the PS3 I needed to go into settings and make the adjustment manually.

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

I noticed right away that the Xbox 360 blade menu at 1080p doesn’t look as good as the Sony PS3 menu. Something about the blade is cloudier looking and I like how whatever game you have highlighed in the games menu automatically changes the background. The Xbox Live content still far surpasses the mostly empty locker of the Playstation Store, but Sony is working on it. Every Thursday you can pretty much count on something new showing up in the Playstation store and I’m guessing, though I didn’t add it up, that for under $200 you can buy everything in the Playstation Store, including the PS1 games.

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

Compare the Playstation Store text readability at 1080i resolution on our older Samsung TV from a past post:
Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

To this:
Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

Some other picture quality things I’ve noticed thus far include:

- some of our DVDs have noticeable artifacts being played at 1080p.
- the detail on the actor’s faces in the Blu-Ray Mission Impossible is stunning. You can see cracks in the actor’s faces that I never noticed seeing before. Better than seeing it in the theater

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

The owner’s manual offered in both English and Spanish is a stout 87 pages and I’m still working my way through it. Worth noting are the USB ports that allow use of a function called Wiselink which allows easily inserting any USB storage device with photos and mp3 to play through the TV. Since the PS3 and Xbox 360 can both do that, it’s kind of redundant.

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

There is a good selection of inputs including: 3 HDMI ports, 1 PC, 2 S-VIDEO, 2 Component, 1 DVI (shared with HDMI port 1), 2 antennae (air and cable). As mentioned above, room to hook up both PS3 and Xbox 360 Elite via HDMI as well as a PC, DVD and older game systems. Below is a picture of the free demo Grand Turismo HD concept v1.2 sporting those realistic looking mountains.

Samsung LCD LN-T4066F

Nope, still no cable, satellite or even over the air channels
Seems almost criminal not having cable, satellite or even over the air reception with the new LCD TV. This now runs up the television total in our home to six total television sets with a 50/50 split between HDTV and non-HDTV:

(1) HDTV 1080p - Samsung - 3 HDMI inputs. Location: Mom & Dad bedroom
(2) HDTV 1080i / 720p - with 2 HDMI inputs.
HDTV 1080i / 720p - only composite inputs. Location (both): Family room
(3) Other non-HDTV - Location: Kids bedroom, one in family room (yes, there are three TVs in the family room)

I’m thinking it will still take another few years to become 100% HDTV in our home. The non-HDTVs will be replaced as necessary with HDTVs.

With this new purchase our family’s streak of being without television is approaching 400 days and could be in jeopardy as NFL preseason starts in less than a month. Then again, it might just be used as a really nice game monitor and to play DVDs and Blu-Ray movies.

I’m curious how many readers have 1080p televisions? For those who don’t, are you waiting for the prices to come down like we have for awhile? For those with one or more 1080p TVs, are you able to go back to buying non-1080p sets now? As I type this, I’m realizing our last three TV purchases have all been progressively better HDTV sets. There was only $100 difference in the two other HDTV sets, but this one is well over three times the cost which is unusual using our historic buying patterns.

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  1. I’ve got the 1080p bug as well…..no hardware at this point to actually see 1080p yet, but I do love my TV. Got a 40″ Sony Bravia back in March.

    http://snipurl.com/1oiac

    Bought an upconverting Sony DVD player at the same time…..haven’t made the trip yet to pick up the HDMI cable yet……but even still, everything looks sharp on this television. Love it.

    Comment by Matt Wardlaw — July 19, 2007 @ 6:53 am PST

  2. I just got a 1080p Samsung 40″ TV too. Different model - UK specific, I think. It’s fabulous.

    I’ve got a Media Centre PC plugged into it that does a pretty good job of upscaling regular TV. Also, a Sky satellite HD box which is good, although it doesn’t use the full 1080p, just 720p or 1080i. Still, looks great. Finally, I got an Arcam DV137 upscaling DVD player which outputs at 1080p. For some DVDs, Lord of the Rings being a really good example, it does an awesome job. Actually looks as good as an HD movie on the satellite box. Other DVDs, not so much. I don’t have a PS3, just a Wii but it displays that well enough. The big surprise for me was how important surround sound is. That’s the other ‘high definition’ in HD TV. Also - big tip - the Logitech range of programmable remote controls mean that I have one remote, not five. A big win.

    I’ve got another 1,000 words to write today but now you’ve made me want to go and watch TV :)

    Comment by Matthew Stibbe (Bad Language) — July 19, 2007 @ 8:31 am PST

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  4. Just checked out that Sony LCD of yours, Matt. Nice! Sony makes some great looking (and usually pricey) hardware. When you going to make the plunge and get an HD-DVD + Xbox 360 Elite or PS3? August 1, the HD-DVD drive add-on for the Xbox 360 is going down to $179.

    Comment by TDavid — July 29, 2007 @ 12:14 pm PST

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  6. Oh, I’ve had the 1080p bug myself for some time now. Unfortunately, the old wallet is not quite fat enough yet. However, I have done a great deal of research and I would, hands-down, recommend Samsung as the best HDTV for the money. Some of their models beat out Sony’s in the reviews I’ve read, but they still have a lower price. Great article by-the-way. There’s nothing better than a full review from an individual owner. Excellent pics too. I will definitely point out some of your articles to my readers.

    Comment by rswift — December 14, 2007 @ 11:11 am PST

  7. seriously lucky you man to even have a lcd tv….i play my ps3 thru my lcd monitor…but still i got the 1080p doo…hmmm…nice lcd tv by the way…

    Comment by erp — March 30, 2008 @ 11:27 am PST

  8. Nice pics. Currently don`t have any 1080p tv, but want to purchase plasma TV Panasonic 42PZ85 or even 50PZ85. HDTV loves the big screen :)

    Comment by Serg — June 14, 2008 @ 7:44 am PST

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  10. Hy, I think your review is really nice. I’ve just started a new blog writing about Samsung LCD TV’s so I find your post very useful. I was wondering, which brand are your other TVs?

    Comment by Mike Johnson — July 25, 2008 @ 4:30 am PST

  11. That’s a sweet TV my friend.

    I play mine on a 52′ HD Ready LCD and it is GREAT.

    Before I had that screen playing was way more boring.

    Comment by capitolino1 — September 18, 2008 @ 1:55 pm PST

  12. I go the 1080p bug myself and finally bit the bullet and purchased the toshiba 52xv545u on the recommendation of everythinghdtv.com — and its by far the best tv i’ve ever owned. (infinitely better than by old 1080i set). it was down to the tosh or samsung ln52a650, but i didnt like the red trim and everythinghdtv.com ’s review pushed me into the tosh camp. brilliant! now i just hope LED LCDs dont become the standard within the year. bleh!

    Comment by dannig — February 22, 2009 @ 9:47 am PST


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