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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-546149</link>
		<author>Ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya, Paul Ashley is one confused man...</description>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-544770</link>
		<author>jp</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33 people lost their lives and members of their families too, and you are saying that this person is a hero you should be disgusted with your self that man was very selfish and took the lives of innocent people if he was going to do that then he should of done it to him self. how do you call that a hero if you can tell me then maybe you deserve to live. jackass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33 people lost their lives and members of their families too, and you are saying that this person is a hero you should be disgusted with your self that man was very selfish and took the lives of innocent people if he was going to do that then he should of done it to him self. how do you call that a hero if you can tell me then maybe you deserve to live. jackass</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-540036</link>
		<author>Ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, couldnt agree with you more, we are on the same page here</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-539709</link>
		<author>Ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol like i give a shit about 200 Iraqis dieng, they are the enemy. Sandos, Im guessing you dont live in America, but lets say for example u live in germany, and in germany 32 people get killed, wheres your countries attention going to go to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol like i give a shit about 200 Iraqis dieng, they are the enemy. Sandos, Im guessing you dont live in America, but lets say for example u live in germany, and in germany 32 people get killed, wheres your countries attention going to go to?</p>
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		<title>By: sandos99</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-539402</link>
		<author>sandos99</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was a sad occurrence to be sure but a lot of people do not know that around the time this massacre was happening and was in the news, 200 Iraqis had died in Baghdad without even the flutter of an eyelid from a vast majority of the world population. it begs the question where the priorities of the media and the general population lie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was a sad occurrence to be sure but a lot of people do not know that around the time this massacre was happening and was in the news, 200 Iraqis had died in Baghdad without even the flutter of an eyelid from a vast majority of the world population. it begs the question where the priorities of the media and the general population lie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-538534</link>
		<author>Ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the mentallity that cho had, he was a recluse, dont let it show and wait till the very end, and then burst. This is how a mind brought up to be weak, worked. A strong mind would take the higher road, yea these kids are insulting/secluding/degrading/putting you down/etc. but one can look at that and say, well they are only proving who is the better man. Only cowards take it to the level cho did.... "had to do somthing to get his message across" give me a fuckin break. People are pickin on you... whaaaaaa. People are makin fun of how you look.....whaaaaaa. if your that weak minded. Do 32 people a favor, and quietly kill yourself......  A comment to neil, lol "go kill yourselves while the world laughs at you"... i find this funny, because it seems to me the world laughs at us while they live in our country..... if thats the way you feel, go head go to france and laugh at us, because frankly, we dont care, we can do without any of you in our country, but again back to topic it all goes back to Chos childhood, yea he was different looking, but so is tons of other asian kids, the difference between the coward gunman, and the other kids is the parents that tell them to hold their head up, ignore, (or fight), and move on. What I hope to come out of this is a better look towards the children. What are we ignoring about this generations lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the mentallity that cho had, he was a recluse, dont let it show and wait till the very end, and then burst. This is how a mind brought up to be weak, worked. A strong mind would take the higher road, yea these kids are insulting/secluding/degrading/putting you down/etc. but one can look at that and say, well they are only proving who is the better man. Only cowards take it to the level cho did&#8230;. &#8220;had to do somthing to get his message across&#8221; give me a fuckin break. People are pickin on you&#8230; whaaaaaa. People are makin fun of how you look&#8230;..whaaaaaa. if your that weak minded. Do 32 people a favor, and quietly kill yourself&#8230;&#8230;  A comment to neil, lol &#8220;go kill yourselves while the world laughs at you&#8221;&#8230; i find this funny, because it seems to me the world laughs at us while they live in our country&#8230;.. if thats the way you feel, go head go to france and laugh at us, because frankly, we dont care, we can do without any of you in our country, but again back to topic it all goes back to Chos childhood, yea he was different looking, but so is tons of other asian kids, the difference between the coward gunman, and the other kids is the parents that tell them to hold their head up, ignore, (or fight), and move on. What I hope to come out of this is a better look towards the children. What are we ignoring about this generations lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-538443</link>
		<author>Ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-538443</guid>
		<description>I meant to add more to the previous statement... Back to the point.. Theres people like Paul, poor baby, people pickin on you, secluding you from their group, "pullin you down", man up this world is definately harsh, but u have to have a stronger mind, a weak mind (like cho's) would be, be quiet, dont talk back to the mean kids, jus let it pass and they will get theres in the end.. they all will) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to add more to the previous statement&#8230; Back to the point.. Theres people like Paul, poor baby, people pickin on you, secluding you from their group, &#8220;pullin you down&#8221;, man up this world is definately harsh, but u have to have a stronger mind, a weak mind (like cho&#8217;s) would be, be quiet, dont talk back to the mean kids, jus let it pass and they will get theres in the end.. they all will)</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-538412</link>
		<author>Ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 05:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there we go....Gun Control.. Thank you MAC for Stating over and over THE ISSUE IS NOT GUN CONTROLL, the problems we have as a country is that we can always "Talk About" the issue of gun controll, but the simple, small fact is, that you will never be able to take the guns from Americans. And to the Brits and the Canadians... no offense to your contries at all, but theres a reason why we are considered the "greatest country in the world" and theres a reason why we have the highest immigration than any other country in the world. We have force, we have guns, we will use them, shame on us, yes.... but do somthing about it.....and theres your problem, you cant.              But. a comment to Paul Ashley... my freind, you are truly misguided.... Cho was no "Jesus", you DONT GET YOUR FUCKIN POINT ACROSS BY KILLING 32 FUCKIN PEOPLE. MAN THE FUCK UP PEOPLE ARE PICKIN ON YOU, FIGHT BACK, BUT DONT FUCKIN KILL 32 PEOPLE!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there we go&#8230;.Gun Control.. Thank you MAC for Stating over and over THE ISSUE IS NOT GUN CONTROLL, the problems we have as a country is that we can always &#8220;Talk About&#8221; the issue of gun controll, but the simple, small fact is, that you will never be able to take the guns from Americans. And to the Brits and the Canadians&#8230; no offense to your contries at all, but theres a reason why we are considered the &#8220;greatest country in the world&#8221; and theres a reason why we have the highest immigration than any other country in the world. We have force, we have guns, we will use them, shame on us, yes&#8230;. but do somthing about it&#8230;..and theres your problem, you cant.              But. a comment to Paul Ashley&#8230; my freind, you are truly misguided&#8230;. Cho was no &#8220;Jesus&#8221;, you DONT GET YOUR FUCKIN POINT ACROSS BY KILLING 32 FUCKIN PEOPLE. MAN THE FUCK UP PEOPLE ARE PICKIN ON YOU, FIGHT BACK, BUT DONT FUCKIN KILL 32 PEOPLE!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bran</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-531255</link>
		<author>Bran</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-531255</guid>
		<description>"Media – be it computer games, console games, song lyrics, music videos, all the things that kids are attracted to and exposed to as young adults, even the content of the nightly news, kids at a very early age are exposed to sites and sounds that make lasting impressions on their personality and character. Media companies should be held accountable for airing information OVER AND OVER. Even though they don’t think it does, this promotes what happens and encourages others to follow suite. I believe the copy cat incidents from Columbine H.S., 9/11, and Virginia Tech incidents are a result of the overkill of news coverage. Report the day’s news and let it go! I believe ALL news reporting agencies should be restructured and NOT driven by newspaper sales, TV exposure, technological advances, etc as this creates an environment that is hostile and misleading to the very people it provides these services to. As I sit here writing this, there is a picture of “Cho” on TV. Almost a week later, they are still stating what happened and going over it…AGAIN!" 

- And where are the responsable parents to stop those children seeing violent stuff, or where is the right education to make them understand that violence? Now maybe there's a real problem. Because in EU children see the same violence (the censorship in Europe is much more soft), and still we don't have such problems with such intensity.

And Jay... You seem against the "no-weapon-policy" but you seem to go for censorship? "Weapons are not guilty - the media is"...come on.. Don't you people see what is happening to your country? How more the bodycounts have to raise in shootings for people want to give a try for another policy other then that old one that is proving to be a failure - at least for those victims and their families.. It's right: it is people who kill people, but give them the right weaponry and they transform a probable incident or even homicide into a genocide... there's about sixteen probable killings inside a weapon that is in the hand of psycho.. And "good" "regular" people are not soldiers - you will never have a society where everyone sees someone pulling out of a gun, shooting someone else and suddently two civilians point him a gun screaming: freeeze! and shoot him if he doesn't stops.. Who wants to live in that way? Wouldn't it be better if that "shooter" just didn't had a gun? Probably he would think twice, probably people could run, probably responsable agents of the law could gain more time to get there before it would become a bloodshed..

Besides who will ever be able to say who can really carry a weapon or not? Even a "regular" guy has is own rage moments... having a gun around just makes it easier..

As I said above. You just sound like you all live in fear - otherwise you wouldn't carry a gun..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Media – be it computer games, console games, song lyrics, music videos, all the things that kids are attracted to and exposed to as young adults, even the content of the nightly news, kids at a very early age are exposed to sites and sounds that make lasting impressions on their personality and character. Media companies should be held accountable for airing information OVER AND OVER. Even though they don’t think it does, this promotes what happens and encourages others to follow suite. I believe the copy cat incidents from Columbine H.S., 9/11, and Virginia Tech incidents are a result of the overkill of news coverage. Report the day’s news and let it go! I believe ALL news reporting agencies should be restructured and NOT driven by newspaper sales, TV exposure, technological advances, etc as this creates an environment that is hostile and misleading to the very people it provides these services to. As I sit here writing this, there is a picture of “Cho” on TV. Almost a week later, they are still stating what happened and going over it…AGAIN!&#8221; </p>
<p>- And where are the responsable parents to stop those children seeing violent stuff, or where is the right education to make them understand that violence? Now maybe there&#8217;s a real problem. Because in EU children see the same violence (the censorship in Europe is much more soft), and still we don&#8217;t have such problems with such intensity.</p>
<p>And Jay&#8230; You seem against the &#8220;no-weapon-policy&#8221; but you seem to go for censorship? &#8220;Weapons are not guilty - the media is&#8221;&#8230;come on.. Don&#8217;t you people see what is happening to your country? How more the bodycounts have to raise in shootings for people want to give a try for another policy other then that old one that is proving to be a failure - at least for those victims and their families.. It&#8217;s right: it is people who kill people, but give them the right weaponry and they transform a probable incident or even homicide into a genocide&#8230; there&#8217;s about sixteen probable killings inside a weapon that is in the hand of psycho.. And &#8220;good&#8221; &#8220;regular&#8221; people are not soldiers - you will never have a society where everyone sees someone pulling out of a gun, shooting someone else and suddently two civilians point him a gun screaming: freeeze! and shoot him if he doesn&#8217;t stops.. Who wants to live in that way? Wouldn&#8217;t it be better if that &#8220;shooter&#8221; just didn&#8217;t had a gun? Probably he would think twice, probably people could run, probably responsable agents of the law could gain more time to get there before it would become a bloodshed..</p>
<p>Besides who will ever be able to say who can really carry a weapon or not? Even a &#8220;regular&#8221; guy has is own rage moments&#8230; having a gun around just makes it easier..</p>
<p>As I said above. You just sound like you all live in fear - otherwise you wouldn&#8217;t carry a gun..</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-530253</link>
		<author>Jay</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20070416/4415/#comment-530253</guid>
		<description>There are many opinions about what should be done about this problem.  There are many answers, suggestions, etc but there is no real merit to the "take guns away" approach.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.  If this guy had used a steak knife to kill all these people, is the answer to not have any steak knives in our homes?  How bout a screwdriver?  Hammer?  What if he choked them all with a mouse cable?  Do we take away mice for all your computers?  Where do you stop?    

People who are against guns just use this very tragic and grotesque incident and the drama portrayed on Television as a platform to start their anti-gun campaign up again.

Here is where the problem lays:
•	Responsibility – we are responsible to our children.  To provide them with the best tools and principles to live a good life.  The government is responsible to ALL U.S. CITIZENS.  They have to be held responsible when the programs, services, etc they govern do not work or fail to protect the people that foot the bill.  We can afford to pay TRILLIONS of dollars in a war, but can’t get the proper protection for our children in school?  The reason:  there is no ROI (Return on investment) as far as the government is concerned.  Our own children are overlooked to a war that is misleading, poorly planned and reminiscent of Vietnam.
•	Teenage Parents – kids having kids, trying to raise children with no help.  Kids are left to figure things out for themselves, both as parents and child.
•	Punk kids afraid to take a butt whoopin – so many kids today are so afraid to take a beating and lose a fist fight, in fear of what their peers might think.  So they take it to the next level to “win” the situation and avoid getting beat up only to take a defense of:
o	My parents beat me
o	I am only a kid
o	Whatever other excuses they can find to make people feel sorry for them.  I am not one of those people!
This falls into the responsibility category as well.  You did the crime, you do the time.  Take responsibility for your actions regardless of how you were raised, what you were taught, who influenced you.  This is how you weed them out.  
•	Media – be it computer games, console games, song lyrics, music videos, all the things that kids are attracted to and exposed to as young adults, even the content of the nightly news, kids at a very early age are exposed to sites and sounds that make lasting impressions on their personality and character.  Media companies should be held accountable for airing information OVER AND OVER.  Even though they don’t think it does, this promotes what happens and encourages others to follow suite.  I believe the copy cat incidents from Columbine H.S., 9/11, and Virginia Tech incidents are a result of the overkill of news coverage.  Report the day’s news and let it go!  I believe ALL news reporting agencies should be restructured and NOT driven by newspaper sales, TV exposure, technological advances, etc as this creates an environment that is hostile and misleading to the very people it provides these services to.  As I sit here writing this, there is a picture of “Cho” on TV.  Almost a week later, they are still stating what happened and going over it…AGAIN!
•	Parenting – what is right?  What is wrong?  What is proven to work?  Get the government to spend money on children profiling and showing the people who are footing the bill, the best techniques and practices for raising children.  Parents should pay closer attention to what they expose their children to.  Quit worrying about keeping up with the Jones’ and yourselves, and pay closer attention to your kids.
•	Dinner at the dinner table – it doesn’t happen as much as it should.  This is where you learn most about your kids.  A time to reflect on the events of the day and to find out the mood, moral, feelings of the people that are close to you and to provide advice (that you learned from the governments programs as well as your own experience) to the ones you love.
•	Drugs – do I really need to even go here?  There are more drugs available, and more drug dealers dealing than ever before.  I think our government allows these drugs to come into the country and to be distributed to our kids as a means of sedating our opinions.  Keeping the masses at bay.  Nobody stands up against the cartels, pharmaceutical companies, drug dealers, etc.  If millions of people are drugged up and in a state of mind where they are incapable of interacting with the world, they will not be voting and hence, we do not have to worry about them.  The problem is, most of these people are poor to begin with, so this mentality, by definition, targets the lowest income families.  Consequently, this promotes the WHOLE VICIOUS CYCLE all over again.  

There are many more reasons.  These are just off the top of my head.  If we sit idly by and allow all this to happen, we are victims of our own doing.  I can’t see how Americans just allow our money to be thrown away for a war brought on by false intelligence, misleading information and based on oil and profit.  Put that money to work for the infrastructure of our own country.  Take care of things at home before you go trying to fix everyone elses problems!

Just my 2 cents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many opinions about what should be done about this problem.  There are many answers, suggestions, etc but there is no real merit to the &#8220;take guns away&#8221; approach.  Guns don&#8217;t kill people, people kill people.  If this guy had used a steak knife to kill all these people, is the answer to not have any steak knives in our homes?  How bout a screwdriver?  Hammer?  What if he choked them all with a mouse cable?  Do we take away mice for all your computers?  Where do you stop?    </p>
<p>People who are against guns just use this very tragic and grotesque incident and the drama portrayed on Television as a platform to start their anti-gun campaign up again.</p>
<p>Here is where the problem lays:<br />
•	Responsibility – we are responsible to our children.  To provide them with the best tools and principles to live a good life.  The government is responsible to ALL U.S. CITIZENS.  They have to be held responsible when the programs, services, etc they govern do not work or fail to protect the people that foot the bill.  We can afford to pay TRILLIONS of dollars in a war, but can’t get the proper protection for our children in school?  The reason:  there is no ROI (Return on investment) as far as the government is concerned.  Our own children are overlooked to a war that is misleading, poorly planned and reminiscent of Vietnam.<br />
•	Teenage Parents – kids having kids, trying to raise children with no help.  Kids are left to figure things out for themselves, both as parents and child.<br />
•	Punk kids afraid to take a butt whoopin – so many kids today are so afraid to take a beating and lose a fist fight, in fear of what their peers might think.  So they take it to the next level to “win” the situation and avoid getting beat up only to take a defense of:<br />
o	My parents beat me<br />
o	I am only a kid<br />
o	Whatever other excuses they can find to make people feel sorry for them.  I am not one of those people!<br />
This falls into the responsibility category as well.  You did the crime, you do the time.  Take responsibility for your actions regardless of how you were raised, what you were taught, who influenced you.  This is how you weed them out.<br />
•	Media – be it computer games, console games, song lyrics, music videos, all the things that kids are attracted to and exposed to as young adults, even the content of the nightly news, kids at a very early age are exposed to sites and sounds that make lasting impressions on their personality and character.  Media companies should be held accountable for airing information OVER AND OVER.  Even though they don’t think it does, this promotes what happens and encourages others to follow suite.  I believe the copy cat incidents from Columbine H.S., 9/11, and Virginia Tech incidents are a result of the overkill of news coverage.  Report the day’s news and let it go!  I believe ALL news reporting agencies should be restructured and NOT driven by newspaper sales, TV exposure, technological advances, etc as this creates an environment that is hostile and misleading to the very people it provides these services to.  As I sit here writing this, there is a picture of “Cho” on TV.  Almost a week later, they are still stating what happened and going over it…AGAIN!<br />
•	Parenting – what is right?  What is wrong?  What is proven to work?  Get the government to spend money on children profiling and showing the people who are footing the bill, the best techniques and practices for raising children.  Parents should pay closer attention to what they expose their children to.  Quit worrying about keeping up with the Jones’ and yourselves, and pay closer attention to your kids.<br />
•	Dinner at the dinner table – it doesn’t happen as much as it should.  This is where you learn most about your kids.  A time to reflect on the events of the day and to find out the mood, moral, feelings of the people that are close to you and to provide advice (that you learned from the governments programs as well as your own experience) to the ones you love.<br />
•	Drugs – do I really need to even go here?  There are more drugs available, and more drug dealers dealing than ever before.  I think our government allows these drugs to come into the country and to be distributed to our kids as a means of sedating our opinions.  Keeping the masses at bay.  Nobody stands up against the cartels, pharmaceutical companies, drug dealers, etc.  If millions of people are drugged up and in a state of mind where they are incapable of interacting with the world, they will not be voting and hence, we do not have to worry about them.  The problem is, most of these people are poor to begin with, so this mentality, by definition, targets the lowest income families.  Consequently, this promotes the WHOLE VICIOUS CYCLE all over again.  </p>
<p>There are many more reasons.  These are just off the top of my head.  If we sit idly by and allow all this to happen, we are victims of our own doing.  I can’t see how Americans just allow our money to be thrown away for a war brought on by false intelligence, misleading information and based on oil and profit.  Put that money to work for the infrastructure of our own country.  Take care of things at home before you go trying to fix everyone elses problems!</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents&#8230;</p>
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