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October 19, 2006

Pirillo gets pitched for paid placement at StumbleUpon

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Chris Pirillo drawing on my Tablet PC at February 2005 Seattle Blogger meetup

Received an IM yesterday afternoon via Skype from Chris Pirillo asking me if I saw his bit about StumbleUpon (SU). I replied that I hadn’t and didn’t really follow up to find out what he meant at the moment. I showed Chris SU at the first Northern Voice conference, so I guessed that was partly what prompted this message out of the blue.

This morning I saw that he was contacted to advertise on SU and didn’t seem to realize that some of the results stumblers are being shown are paid, sponsored listings. As one of Chris’ commenters already points out, this has been happening for a long time and you can become a paying member and block seeing those stumbles.

To answer Chris’ question that he never really asked me (the dude’s like that): yes, I know some results are paid, targeted stumbles and I still donated to their cause quite awhile ago. I’m kind of surprised Chris didn’t realize this was happening (?) and not sure by his post if he dislikes this practice or not, or is simply questioning if this practice makes the service “real or fake.”

I don’t think inserting a small — keyword small — number of paid stumbles into the results makes SU ‘fake’ any more than the Pay Per Post review place is inherently bad as some have made it out to be. The key to all this stuff is proper disclosure. If people are using SU and don’t realize that some of the results are from paid sponsors, at least posts like Chris made and this one help get the word out so it’s more clear.

Bottom line: SU is a surfing toolbar in your browser that is used to discover and share stuff that might be of interest to you and others. I’ve used it on and off — mostly on — since January 18, 2004 and for those interested that want to see my stumble activity and history can follow my tdavid.stumbleupon.com page. You can sign up and share your SU activity if you like without paying a dime. You can also optionally pay $20 a year and turn off viewing sponsored stumbles. If someone pays that fee and is still seeing sponsored stumbles then please let me know.

Update 7:18am PST: via WikiPedia the number of sponsored pages is less than 2%: “StumbleUpon uses knowledge of user preferences to deliver targeted advertising. A small proportion of the ’stumbles’ users come across (typically less than 2%) are sponsored pages matching their topics of interest.”

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  1. I think that’s exactly right. Disclosure would totally change things. Just like the recent ConvergeSouth conference, we disclosed that PayPerPost was the sponsor of the lunch. We didn’t have to do much about it, nor did we even have to say how sweet or bad or whatever they were. Nothing. They just paid.

    From my perspective as a conference organizer, that was sweet of them. As a tech blogger, I would have said that I would be screwing with my integrity if I was paid to say things. If they paid me to say whatever I wanted about the topic however, that’d be different. Kind of like.. honest opinion, but direct your attention this way.

    I think that would be the way to go. You’d have to have credible bloggers though, but it would actually let the integrity point stand, and still allow them to do their business. But whatever. I’m going on a tangent.

    Disclosure = key.

    Comment by darkmoon — October 19, 2006 @ 11:36 am PST


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