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	<title>Comments on: Mary Jo Foley leaves Microsoft Watch for ZDnet blog</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Howard-Sarin</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-313993</link>
		<author>Stephen Howard-Sarin</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TDavid, this is a healthy debate and a business model that's still forming. So far, my observation is that the 100% independent blogger who owns their own site and blogs nowhere else is a rarer, and poorer, creature than the independent who promotes themselves and their POV in multiple media and on multiple sites. Google juice is not the most important metric.  

And to be clear: Mary Jo is not publishing exclusively on ZDNet. She's blogging exclusively on ZDNet. You'll see articles from her in print and online in other places.

(And about that bitter, rejected writer thing: drop me a note. We'll have coffee. We'll talk.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TDavid, this is a healthy debate and a business model that&#8217;s still forming. So far, my observation is that the 100% independent blogger who owns their own site and blogs nowhere else is a rarer, and poorer, creature than the independent who promotes themselves and their POV in multiple media and on multiple sites. Google juice is not the most important metric.  </p>
<p>And to be clear: Mary Jo is not publishing exclusively on ZDNet. She&#8217;s blogging exclusively on ZDNet. You&#8217;ll see articles from her in print and online in other places.</p>
<p>(And about that bitter, rejected writer thing: drop me a note. We&#8217;ll have coffee. We&#8217;ll talk.)</p>
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		<title>By: Make You Go Hmm: &#187; Hmmcast #24: DRM, conversational blogging and time not on vloggling side</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-312344</link>
		<author>Make You Go Hmm: &#187; Hmmcast #24: DRM, conversational blogging and time not on vloggling side</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-312344</guid>
		<description>[...] Most Hmm-worthy posts from September 16 - September 22, 2006 - Calling their Blufr, yes, way (3) [sep 16] - Starting to see Live.com search referrals (1) [sep 18] - Eating on a floating restaurant (3) [sep 19] - Time still the biggest enemy of video blogging (0) [sep 20] - The search for more conversational blogging (2) [sep 20] - Mary Jo Foley leaves Microsoft Watch for ZDnet blog (5) [sep 20] &#8220;Mary Jo is independent, like most of the ZDNet bloggers. She truly has created her own operation, and we are lucky enough to have reached a deal for her to blog exclusively on ZDNet — but you’ll be seeing more of her in many places, I’m sure. At ZDNet we really embrace the idea of independent journalist/bloggers, and we seek out the best to partner with us. The model is not terribly unlike TV networks working with stars to make hit shows. James Gandolfini isn’t an employee of HBO, but he’s a big reason why I watch that network.&#8221; &#8211; Comment by Stephen Howard-Sarin — September 22, 2006 @ 7:17 am [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Most Hmm-worthy posts from September 16 - September 22, 2006 - Calling their Blufr, yes, way (3) [sep 16] - Starting to see Live.com search referrals (1) [sep 18] - Eating on a floating restaurant (3) [sep 19] - Time still the biggest enemy of video blogging (0) [sep 20] - The search for more conversational blogging (2) [sep 20] - Mary Jo Foley leaves Microsoft Watch for ZDnet blog (5) [sep 20] &#8220;Mary Jo is independent, like most of the ZDNet bloggers. She truly has created her own operation, and we are lucky enough to have reached a deal for her to blog exclusively on ZDNet — but you’ll be seeing more of her in many places, I’m sure. At ZDNet we really embrace the idea of independent journalist/bloggers, and we seek out the best to partner with us. The model is not terribly unlike TV networks working with stars to make hit shows. James Gandolfini isn’t an employee of HBO, but he’s a big reason why I watch that network.&#8221; &#8211; Comment by Stephen Howard-Sarin — September 22, 2006 @ 7:17 am [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-312031</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-312031</guid>
		<description>Hi Stephen Howard-Sarin - thanks for taking time to stop by and comment. With all due respect to ZDnet, independence online is heavily defined by the domain name where content resides. Nothing against publishing or having a blog at ZDnet, heck, I was willing to write for them there but &lt;a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060112/2844/"&gt;they didn't groove on my idea for a new blog, my writing or me&lt;/a&gt; (or some combination of all three). 

The problem with publishing &lt;i&gt;exclusively&lt;/i&gt; at a third party site is what happens when/if Ms. Foley wants to branch out on her own? Where has all the traffic been going? The SE traffic too, not just the RSS subscribers? These aren't trivial concerns as she will find out when/if she ever goes completely independent. It's not going to be at Ms. Foley's domain, that's for certain, it's going to ZDnet blogs. Even if she has an agreement -- which I doubt she does -- that says her created content can go with her, she's building the ZDnet brand and to a lesser extent her own isn't being developed anywhere.

There have been some cases where people blogging have successfully switched from one domain/brand to another like Robert Scoble, although not even he went to his own domain, he still uses a third party site (wordpress.com).

It's good to know Ms. Foley has an independent deal, but for her sake I hope it says something about being able to crosspost or take that content with her should something not work out at ZDnet someday. Again, I hope this isn't taken as a blast against ZDnet or the rambling of a bitter, rejected writer, because that's not at all what this is about. I like several of the ZDnet blogs and would have liked to have worked with them too, heck, I still might be interested in blogging for them someday if they change their minds. At the same time, I think Ms. Foley would be wise not to have made an exclusive deal with any third party as far as blogging goes over the long term.

Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen Howard-Sarin - thanks for taking time to stop by and comment. With all due respect to ZDnet, independence online is heavily defined by the domain name where content resides. Nothing against publishing or having a blog at ZDnet, heck, I was willing to write for them there but <a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060112/2844/">they didn&#8217;t groove on my idea for a new blog, my writing or me</a> (or some combination of all three). </p>
<p>The problem with publishing <i>exclusively</i> at a third party site is what happens when/if Ms. Foley wants to branch out on her own? Where has all the traffic been going? The SE traffic too, not just the RSS subscribers? These aren&#8217;t trivial concerns as she will find out when/if she ever goes completely independent. It&#8217;s not going to be at Ms. Foley&#8217;s domain, that&#8217;s for certain, it&#8217;s going to ZDnet blogs. Even if she has an agreement &#8212; which I doubt she does &#8212; that says her created content can go with her, she&#8217;s building the ZDnet brand and to a lesser extent her own isn&#8217;t being developed anywhere.</p>
<p>There have been some cases where people blogging have successfully switched from one domain/brand to another like Robert Scoble, although not even he went to his own domain, he still uses a third party site (wordpress.com).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to know Ms. Foley has an independent deal, but for her sake I hope it says something about being able to crosspost or take that content with her should something not work out at ZDnet someday. Again, I hope this isn&#8217;t taken as a blast against ZDnet or the rambling of a bitter, rejected writer, because that&#8217;s not at all what this is about. I like several of the ZDnet blogs and would have liked to have worked with them too, heck, I still might be interested in blogging for them someday if they change their minds. At the same time, I think Ms. Foley would be wise not to have made an exclusive deal with any third party as far as blogging goes over the long term.</p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Howard-Sarin</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311996</link>
		<author>Stephen Howard-Sarin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311996</guid>
		<description>Mary Jo is independent, like most of the ZDNet bloggers. She truly has created her own operation, and we are lucky enough to have reached a deal for her to blog exclusively on ZDNet -- but you'll be seeing more of her in many places, I'm sure. At ZDNet we really embrace the idea of independent journalist/bloggers, and we seek out the best to partner with us. The model is not terribly unlike TV networks working with stars to make hit shows. James Gandolfini isn't an employee of HBO, but he's a big reason why I watch that network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Jo is independent, like most of the ZDNet bloggers. She truly has created her own operation, and we are lucky enough to have reached a deal for her to blog exclusively on ZDNet &#8212; but you&#8217;ll be seeing more of her in many places, I&#8217;m sure. At ZDNet we really embrace the idea of independent journalist/bloggers, and we seek out the best to partner with us. The model is not terribly unlike TV networks working with stars to make hit shows. James Gandolfini isn&#8217;t an employee of HBO, but he&#8217;s a big reason why I watch that network.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311503</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you John, I see Nathan also responded on his blog and explained the sale from Ziff Davis to CNET. I will update the post above with the newly learned information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you John, I see Nathan also responded on his blog and explained the sale from Ziff Davis to CNET. I will update the post above with the newly learned information.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311502</link>
		<author>John</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311502</guid>
		<description>Ziff Davis doesn't own ZDNet. They sold it to CNET Networks a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ziff Davis doesn&#8217;t own ZDNet. They sold it to CNET Networks a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Mary Jo Foley Leaves Microsoft Watch For ZDNet&#160;&#160;InsideMicrosoft - part of the Blog News Channel</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311399</link>
		<author>&#187; Mary Jo Foley Leaves Microsoft Watch For ZDNet&#160;&#160;InsideMicrosoft - part of the Blog News Channel</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 04:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060920/3803/#comment-311399</guid>
		<description>[...] A history lesson for everyone, especially TDavid, who asks: The part of this that doesn’t make much sense is has Ms. Foley really left anything? I mean if Ziff Davis was behind Microsoft Watch, what will be that different at a ZDnet blog besides a different web address? Why doesn’t she start maryjofoley.com or foleyprobeswindows.com or something if she really wants to go out on her own? Working for Ziff Davis is still working for Ziff Davis, yes/no? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A history lesson for everyone, especially TDavid, who asks: The part of this that doesn’t make much sense is has Ms. Foley really left anything? I mean if Ziff Davis was behind Microsoft Watch, what will be that different at a ZDnet blog besides a different web address? Why doesn’t she start maryjofoley.com or foleyprobeswindows.com or something if she really wants to go out on her own? Working for Ziff Davis is still working for Ziff Davis, yes/no? [&#8230;]</p>
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