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		<title>By: erp</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-739216</link>
		<author>erp</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont thinks sony is making a big mistake...seriously blu ray is the next gen of everything(games,movie,software)the cd is bigger than some hard dirve....applause to sony to create ie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont thinks sony is making a big mistake&#8230;seriously blu ray is the next gen of everything(games,movie,software)the cd is bigger than some hard dirve&#8230;.applause to sony to create ie</p>
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		<title>By: Playstation head Ken Kutaragi replaced &#187; Make You Go Hmm</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-355103</link>
		<author>Playstation head Ken Kutaragi replaced &#187; Make You Go Hmm</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-355103</guid>
		<description>[...] Also, I found it interesting that Au pointed to the possibility that there might be no PS4 and that Sony could go the way of Sega, a comparison I suggested back in August and was quickly flamed by Sony fanboys. The blind Sony loyalists claim how great the PS brand is and how easy it is going to keep the #1 slot on the console gaming front, but this time around things are a lot different. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Also, I found it interesting that Au pointed to the possibility that there might be no PS4 and that Sony could go the way of Sega, a comparison I suggested back in August and was quickly flamed by Sony fanboys. The blind Sony loyalists claim how great the PS brand is and how easy it is going to keep the #1 slot on the console gaming front, but this time around things are a lot different. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Make You Go Hmm: &#187; Sony lowers PS3 price in Japan, will lose over a billion dollars on launch, may still be #1</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-312122</link>
		<author>Make You Go Hmm: &#187; Sony lowers PS3 price in Japan, will lose over a billion dollars on launch, may still be #1</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-312122</guid>
		<description>[...] Seems like Sony is backtracking on the PS3 pricing now &#8212; at least in Japan &#8212; due to many consumer complaints. The Wii has been looking more and more like the sweetheart deal. This price decrease will probably push Sony over the one billion dollar loss mark, as they reported earlier projections that they would lose $900 million. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Seems like Sony is backtracking on the PS3 pricing now &#8212; at least in Japan &#8212; due to many consumer complaints. The Wii has been looking more and more like the sweetheart deal. This price decrease will probably push Sony over the one billion dollar loss mark, as they reported earlier projections that they would lose $900 million. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-289263</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-289263</guid>
		<description>Xavier - admittedly, I haven't followed Sony's financial picture as closely as I've followed their other activities, but this morning I saw &lt;a href="http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&#038;storyID=13277766&#038;src=rss/technologyNews"&gt;Sony shares slide on ratings cut&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;blockquote&gt;Sony shares were down 3.2 percent at 5,080 yen, underperforming the Tokyo stock market's electrical machinery index , which lost 1.51 percent.

A spokeswoman for Sony's game division, which in March delayed the PS3 launch to November from spring 2006, declined to comment. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

They are also taking it up the rear on the battery recalls for Dell and Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xavier - admittedly, I haven&#8217;t followed Sony&#8217;s financial picture as closely as I&#8217;ve followed their other activities, but this morning I saw <a href="http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&#038;storyID=13277766&#038;src=rss/technologyNews">Sony shares slide on ratings cut</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Sony shares were down 3.2 percent at 5,080 yen, underperforming the Tokyo stock market&#8217;s electrical machinery index , which lost 1.51 percent.</p>
<p>A spokeswoman for Sony&#8217;s game division, which in March delayed the PS3 launch to November from spring 2006, declined to comment. </p></blockquote>
<p>They are also taking it up the rear on the battery recalls for Dell and Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-285355</link>
		<author>Xavier</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-285355</guid>
		<description>Interesting that someone says Sony is in trouble when for the quarter ending June 30, 2006 it reported a profit of $279.4 million.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154726.html

The complaint about the ps3 pricing seems strange as well, especially when it's said, "Most likely I’ll finally be dipping the toe in water when the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive is released."  Add the cost of that and the $100 wifi for the 360 and I bet both sku's will cost a little more than the ps3.  Oh and another thing, what happens when content holders decide to use the ICT(Image Contstraint Token), looks like you'll have to buy an additional hdmi cable for the 360, if they ever make it, unless you like hd playback at less than hd image quality.

As far as the drm issue goes, may I entreat as to what solution you have prevent rampant piracy of content in Malaysia and China where the currency is so much weaker than ours that they can't afford the movies you or I can?  The normal price for movies here might be the equivalent of a months or more of wages there.  I personally hope Sony wins in stopping hi-def content redistribution through illicit channels.  Note I said hi-def, if somehow pirates can only get standard-def from blu-ray discs then I think Sony will be victorious.  

I think the mylo will fail.  But hopefully they'll get a little revisionist and release a psp with 1GB of flash built in.

I predict that ps3 will come out on top, 360 in 2nd, and the wii in 3rd by 2008.  To me the ps3 has the greatest span of gaming categories.  If you want anywhere from kiddie games to mature games developed by western to eastern developers, there's the ps3.  If you want anywhere from kiddie games to mature games developed by mostly western developers, there's the xbox360.  I know they're trying in Japan, but I don't expect them to gain any ground anytime soon there.  If you want anywhere from kiddie to teen rated games developed by mostly eastern developers there's the wii.

This is off topic, but I really wonder if nintendo will survive the generation after next.  Non-gamers might be a big market now.  What will be the appeal to non-gamers of the next new generation console from Nintendo when they already have enough tech for the simple mini-games, simple puzzles, like sudoku, and musical simulators that they love.  One thing I gotta say about efficianados of mature-themed gaming, they always seem willing to go for the subsequent next-generation tech when it's ready.  I guess Nintendo will have to release a new peripheral to maintain interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that someone says Sony is in trouble when for the quarter ending June 30, 2006 it reported a profit of $279.4 million.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154726.html">http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154726.html</a></p>
<p>The complaint about the ps3 pricing seems strange as well, especially when it&#8217;s said, &#8220;Most likely I’ll finally be dipping the toe in water when the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive is released.&#8221;  Add the cost of that and the $100 wifi for the 360 and I bet both sku&#8217;s will cost a little more than the ps3.  Oh and another thing, what happens when content holders decide to use the ICT(Image Contstraint Token), looks like you&#8217;ll have to buy an additional hdmi cable for the 360, if they ever make it, unless you like hd playback at less than hd image quality.</p>
<p>As far as the drm issue goes, may I entreat as to what solution you have prevent rampant piracy of content in Malaysia and China where the currency is so much weaker than ours that they can&#8217;t afford the movies you or I can?  The normal price for movies here might be the equivalent of a months or more of wages there.  I personally hope Sony wins in stopping hi-def content redistribution through illicit channels.  Note I said hi-def, if somehow pirates can only get standard-def from blu-ray discs then I think Sony will be victorious.  </p>
<p>I think the mylo will fail.  But hopefully they&#8217;ll get a little revisionist and release a psp with 1GB of flash built in.</p>
<p>I predict that ps3 will come out on top, 360 in 2nd, and the wii in 3rd by 2008.  To me the ps3 has the greatest span of gaming categories.  If you want anywhere from kiddie games to mature games developed by western to eastern developers, there&#8217;s the ps3.  If you want anywhere from kiddie games to mature games developed by mostly western developers, there&#8217;s the xbox360.  I know they&#8217;re trying in Japan, but I don&#8217;t expect them to gain any ground anytime soon there.  If you want anywhere from kiddie to teen rated games developed by mostly eastern developers there&#8217;s the wii.</p>
<p>This is off topic, but I really wonder if nintendo will survive the generation after next.  Non-gamers might be a big market now.  What will be the appeal to non-gamers of the next new generation console from Nintendo when they already have enough tech for the simple mini-games, simple puzzles, like sudoku, and musical simulators that they love.  One thing I gotta say about efficianados of mature-themed gaming, they always seem willing to go for the subsequent next-generation tech when it&#8217;s ready.  I guess Nintendo will have to release a new peripheral to maintain interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuumoushin.com (勇猛心) &#187; Does Sony have an identity problem?</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-285263</link>
		<author>Yuumoushin.com (勇猛心) &#187; Does Sony have an identity problem?</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-285263</guid>
		<description>[...] There are a lot of articles out there that are talking about Sony, their upcoming PS3, etc. The general theme is that they&#8217;re on their way to becoming the next Sega&#8230; It definitely seems as if they&#8217;re having issues balancing their hardware with their software (particularly in music). I think some of their MP3 players are amazingly designed, but why would I want one that only plays their format (to their credit, they play other file formats now, but you still need their software to transfer them). Not allowing UMS is fine, but at least go with MTP. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] There are a lot of articles out there that are talking about Sony, their upcoming PS3, etc. The general theme is that they&#8217;re on their way to becoming the next Sega&#8230; It definitely seems as if they&#8217;re having issues balancing their hardware with their software (particularly in music). I think some of their MP3 players are amazingly designed, but why would I want one that only plays their format (to their credit, they play other file formats now, but you still need their software to transfer them). Not allowing UMS is fine, but at least go with MTP. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Zmonde</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-285261</link>
		<author>Zmonde</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-285261</guid>
		<description>After reading your blog, I'm not certain you understand the main reason why Sega failed as a console maker. Sega attempted to segment the video game market with the Sega CD, 32X, 32X CD and the Saturn.  Sega's 32X debacle was the beginning of the end for Sega. They abandoned their so-called next generation 32X system as soon as they introduced the Saturn.  Sega had no respect for gamers and tried to get every penny from loyalist as they could.

While popular press these days will also say Sony has no respect for gamers, I think it is too soon to say so.  The PSP is a great piece of hardware, as you admit.  And it is far from a failure some wish it to be.  UMD movies have failed -- for predicable reasons, IE pricing-- but the PSP lives up to it's main purpose as a gaming device.  I don't see how DRM is terribly relevant to the ultimate success or failure of the PSP.  And at $200 the PSP is reasonably priced for what it does.

I believe 20%-30% of current PSP owners can be classified as hardcore gamers, but I believe only 5% may be interested in home-brew.  The press seem to think home-brew may be crucial for the PSP success and sees Sony's efforts to prevent it draconian, I, however, think home-brew is of negligible importance.  

$600 is too much to pay for a game system.  But if you don't care about HDMI, the base model is only $100 more than the premium Xbox 360 with a built in Bluray player.  But depending how these console wars play out, I may end up buying American (hello Microsoft).

Sony does worry me.  But depending on the adoption of HDTV sets in the next 2 years, their expensive gamble may pay off.  If Sony does fail in the console market, it will be for vastly different reasons than Sega's failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your blog, I&#8217;m not certain you understand the main reason why Sega failed as a console maker. Sega attempted to segment the video game market with the Sega CD, 32X, 32X CD and the Saturn.  Sega&#8217;s 32X debacle was the beginning of the end for Sega. They abandoned their so-called next generation 32X system as soon as they introduced the Saturn.  Sega had no respect for gamers and tried to get every penny from loyalist as they could.</p>
<p>While popular press these days will also say Sony has no respect for gamers, I think it is too soon to say so.  The PSP is a great piece of hardware, as you admit.  And it is far from a failure some wish it to be.  UMD movies have failed &#8212; for predicable reasons, IE pricing&#8211; but the PSP lives up to it&#8217;s main purpose as a gaming device.  I don&#8217;t see how DRM is terribly relevant to the ultimate success or failure of the PSP.  And at $200 the PSP is reasonably priced for what it does.</p>
<p>I believe 20%-30% of current PSP owners can be classified as hardcore gamers, but I believe only 5% may be interested in home-brew.  The press seem to think home-brew may be crucial for the PSP success and sees Sony&#8217;s efforts to prevent it draconian, I, however, think home-brew is of negligible importance.  </p>
<p>$600 is too much to pay for a game system.  But if you don&#8217;t care about HDMI, the base model is only $100 more than the premium Xbox 360 with a built in Bluray player.  But depending how these console wars play out, I may end up buying American (hello Microsoft).</p>
<p>Sony does worry me.  But depending on the adoption of HDTV sets in the next 2 years, their expensive gamble may pay off.  If Sony does fail in the console market, it will be for vastly different reasons than Sega&#8217;s failure.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-284198</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-284198</guid>
		<description>The other side of this is the PS3 needs to take on Xbox Live and their established micropayment and broadband gaming strategy. Japan aside, which you made excellent points on the RPG darkmoon, Xbox could prove to be a very formidable opponent for Sony. Microsoft can keep Xbox Live Wednesdays for retro titles going for years with the massive amount of quality retro titles and people still love the classics enough to pay for them (despite MAME).

Again, Sony's arrogance got them in trouble with online connectivity. They will pay the price by playing catchup on the live front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other side of this is the PS3 needs to take on Xbox Live and their established micropayment and broadband gaming strategy. Japan aside, which you made excellent points on the RPG darkmoon, Xbox could prove to be a very formidable opponent for Sony. Microsoft can keep Xbox Live Wednesdays for retro titles going for years with the massive amount of quality retro titles and people still love the classics enough to pay for them (despite MAME).</p>
<p>Again, Sony&#8217;s arrogance got them in trouble with online connectivity. They will pay the price by playing catchup on the live front.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-284193</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-284193</guid>
		<description>$10 for games? Rumors are $100 or more for some PS3 titles. It's like Neo-Geo all over again.

Yes, price is the #1 concern, but since Sony already claims to be running out the hardware at a loss, we probably won't get the price drop until the hype for PS4 is on. The best time to buy gaming hardware from a pennywise and games standpoint is at the end of its lifecycle which means Sony is targeting the early adopters with its initial launch. Early adopters do care about DRM.

My thinking is if they are going to have it be more expensive than they better make it have as many desirable features as possible and not shackling it with another proprietary DRM would be a positive feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$10 for games? Rumors are $100 or more for some PS3 titles. It&#8217;s like Neo-Geo all over again.</p>
<p>Yes, price is the #1 concern, but since Sony already claims to be running out the hardware at a loss, we probably won&#8217;t get the price drop until the hype for PS4 is on. The best time to buy gaming hardware from a pennywise and games standpoint is at the end of its lifecycle which means Sony is targeting the early adopters with its initial launch. Early adopters do care about DRM.</p>
<p>My thinking is if they are going to have it be more expensive than they better make it have as many desirable features as possible and not shackling it with another proprietary DRM would be a positive feature.</p>
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		<title>By: darkmoon</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-284176</link>
		<author>darkmoon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060810/3662/#comment-284176</guid>
		<description>I personally don't think dropping DRM will do anything.  Price beats all.  Just look at Apple.  Regardless of anti-DRM advocates, Apple still does well due to a low price point.   Sony can DRM all they want, but if they do, they have to play the low pricepoint game for the media if they want people to purchase more expensive hardware.

If the PS3 is $600, then fine.  I'll pay for it.  But I better be getting the games for $10 a pop at the most.  I personally don't think it's even worth the $60 for most games currently.  I remember when I'd save a whole year to get somewhere around that when I was a kid if I was lucky.   Sony will blister and die if they get a reality check soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#8217;t think dropping DRM will do anything.  Price beats all.  Just look at Apple.  Regardless of anti-DRM advocates, Apple still does well due to a low price point.   Sony can DRM all they want, but if they do, they have to play the low pricepoint game for the media if they want people to purchase more expensive hardware.</p>
<p>If the PS3 is $600, then fine.  I&#8217;ll pay for it.  But I better be getting the games for $10 a pop at the most.  I personally don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even worth the $60 for most games currently.  I remember when I&#8217;d save a whole year to get somewhere around that when I was a kid if I was lucky.   Sony will blister and die if they get a reality check soon.</p>
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