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		<title>By: Randy Charles Morin</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234157</link>
		<author>Randy Charles Morin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iM vain. But not that vain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iM vain. But not that vain!</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Camden</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234145</link>
		<author>Sterling Camden</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFLMAO, Randy -- I'm surprised you haven't written one of those for FeedBurner yet.  Or HAVE you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFLMAO, Randy &#8212; I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t written one of those for FeedBurner yet.  Or HAVE you?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Charles Morin</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234139</link>
		<author>Randy Charles Morin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn't he have a Play Tag with Randy button?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t he have a Play Tag with Randy button?</p>
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		<title>By: BizPodcasting</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234129</link>
		<author>BizPodcasting</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234129</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How To Annoy Your Readers.&lt;/strong&gt;

Yup, I said "readers". We're always talking about podcast subscribers and the feed, but let's not forget that there has yet to be a credible study that shows over 50% of any given podcast's listeners even use a podcatcher. Many...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How To Annoy Your Readers.</strong></p>
<p>Yup, I said &#8220;readers&#8221;. We&#8217;re always talking about podcast subscribers and the feed, but let&#8217;s not forget that there has yet to be a credible study that shows over 50% of any given podcast&#8217;s listeners even use a podcatcher. Many&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Camden</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234120</link>
		<author>Sterling Camden</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234120</guid>
		<description>Categories in WordPress are too difficult for me to manage.  One long list of categories with a checkbox beside each requires a lot of scrolling and clicking, while the Jerome's keywords plugin lets me type in the tags I want, and "creates" them on the fly if they weren't used already.  Besides that, there really isn't much difference between tags and categories, IMHO.  Since I have them anyway, I use categories for more broad classification -- so a post rarely belongs in more than one or two categories.  But I tag a post based on any topic it addresses -- not every one, but the high spots.  I also tag everyone I link to or quote.  So you'll see 'tdavid' in my tag cloud in a rather large font.

As far as buying into the web 2.0 thing, that really depends on what someone means when they ask that question.  Collaboration, information sharing, mashups, promoting others' content and even your own -- yes.  Gaming the system to grab center stage with irrelevant content -- no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Categories in WordPress are too difficult for me to manage.  One long list of categories with a checkbox beside each requires a lot of scrolling and clicking, while the Jerome&#8217;s keywords plugin lets me type in the tags I want, and &#8220;creates&#8221; them on the fly if they weren&#8217;t used already.  Besides that, there really isn&#8217;t much difference between tags and categories, IMHO.  Since I have them anyway, I use categories for more broad classification &#8212; so a post rarely belongs in more than one or two categories.  But I tag a post based on any topic it addresses &#8212; not every one, but the high spots.  I also tag everyone I link to or quote.  So you&#8217;ll see &#8216;tdavid&#8217; in my tag cloud in a rather large font.</p>
<p>As far as buying into the web 2.0 thing, that really depends on what someone means when they ask that question.  Collaboration, information sharing, mashups, promoting others&#8217; content and even your own &#8212; yes.  Gaming the system to grab center stage with irrelevant content &#8212; no.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234109</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234109</guid>
		<description>I'm still not sold on all this tag stuff from either a reader or webmaster perspective [&lt;a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060212/2940/"&gt;remember this post?&lt;/a&gt;]. What was wrong with categories? I guess the same could be said about blogs and diaries (which the latter was what I started with on the web, BTW). The two terms seem synomonous from a reader perspective but even on your blog Sterling they are not.

Of course I mean no disrespect toward your WP tag plugin, Sterling. It looks like you did a nice job there, in fact from what I've seen. I'm just talking about tagging and tag use in general from a reader and webmaster perspective. Is this Web 2.0ish thinking? No, but I think it's pretty clear  that I'm not on board the web 2.0 meme. And from what I've read from your blog, you don't seem to be that much either (please correct if I'm wrong). I guess I'm putting 'tags' particularly when used to identify what people do at conferences as web 2.0ish. My business card might be 1.0 but it does a fine job of spelling out what I do.

Furthermore, I don't believe readers would use six, seven or more categories (tags) to describe a single post. Heck in cocomment the average number of tags I put for comments is three. I have no empirical evidence of what others are doing, but that's an educated guess based on looking through various profiles on del.cio.us. I suppose one could go through the API and get some more exact number on the number of tags used average.

Ultimately, I think the emphasis should be on directing readers helpfully to more specific information through the tags/categories. If it is something only of use to the author, then it is something that should only show up for the author on the page. Not the reader, not the search engines, not the rest of the world. 

For example, "Made in Italy" isn't likely to send readers to posts about chairs made of books and Made In Italy. Instead readers would see items actually made in Italy, which when I followed that Technorati link several of the posts weren't even in English. I can see a Made In Italy tag being useful for readers from Italy or whom choose that localization, otherwise most readers are going to be reading in English and see this as worthless.

Also there are SEO considerations here. Should the search engine look at the page/post and think it's about a chair made of books or about all these other promotional links above? Most of what you see above is actually in the post body.

By policing our pages at least somewhat and keeping them related we make it easier for the search engines to properly categorize and return them to people who are looking for the specific information. I don't typically create pages with the search engines in mind, but I do think about this when adding stuff that is on every post/page.

(Tags used for this comment: 'tagging' and 'seo')</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not sold on all this tag stuff from either a reader or webmaster perspective [<a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060212/2940/">remember this post?</a>]. What was wrong with categories? I guess the same could be said about blogs and diaries (which the latter was what I started with on the web, BTW). The two terms seem synomonous from a reader perspective but even on your blog Sterling they are not.</p>
<p>Of course I mean no disrespect toward your WP tag plugin, Sterling. It looks like you did a nice job there, in fact from what I&#8217;ve seen. I&#8217;m just talking about tagging and tag use in general from a reader and webmaster perspective. Is this Web 2.0ish thinking? No, but I think it&#8217;s pretty clear  that I&#8217;m not on board the web 2.0 meme. And from what I&#8217;ve read from your blog, you don&#8217;t seem to be that much either (please correct if I&#8217;m wrong). I guess I&#8217;m putting &#8216;tags&#8217; particularly when used to identify what people do at conferences as web 2.0ish. My business card might be 1.0 but it does a fine job of spelling out what I do.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I don&#8217;t believe readers would use six, seven or more categories (tags) to describe a single post. Heck in cocomment the average number of tags I put for comments is three. I have no empirical evidence of what others are doing, but that&#8217;s an educated guess based on looking through various profiles on del.cio.us. I suppose one could go through the API and get some more exact number on the number of tags used average.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think the emphasis should be on directing readers helpfully to more specific information through the tags/categories. If it is something only of use to the author, then it is something that should only show up for the author on the page. Not the reader, not the search engines, not the rest of the world. </p>
<p>For example, &#8220;Made in Italy&#8221; isn&#8217;t likely to send readers to posts about chairs made of books and Made In Italy. Instead readers would see items actually made in Italy, which when I followed that Technorati link several of the posts weren&#8217;t even in English. I can see a Made In Italy tag being useful for readers from Italy or whom choose that localization, otherwise most readers are going to be reading in English and see this as worthless.</p>
<p>Also there are SEO considerations here. Should the search engine look at the page/post and think it&#8217;s about a chair made of books or about all these other promotional links above? Most of what you see above is actually in the post body.</p>
<p>By policing our pages at least somewhat and keeping them related we make it easier for the search engines to properly categorize and return them to people who are looking for the specific information. I don&#8217;t typically create pages with the search engines in mind, but I do think about this when adding stuff that is on every post/page.</p>
<p>(Tags used for this comment: &#8216;tagging&#8217; and &#8217;seo&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Camden</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234097</link>
		<author>Sterling Camden</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060720/3594/#comment-234097</guid>
		<description>You can actually write your own FeedFlare plugins, so there may not even be a limit to how far you could go with this.  I have seen two different 'Digg this' plugins, so that may be where they got those from.

I agree that FeedFlare links should be limited and useful to the user.  For instance, even though I use co.mments a lot myself, I don't include it in my FeedFlare because I think most users would typically want to add a comment before tracking them.  I also avoid FeedFlare links that apply to the site as a whole (e.g. Add to Technorati Favorites) -- these links should be specific to the post.

However I do use a lot of tags.  It isn't just to seed Technorati -- my tags cross-reference topics in my blog.  In fact, the tag links in my feed are links to those tags in my blog, not in Technorati.  On the site itself I include both, in a relatively small font so it hopefully doesn't take up too much real estate.  I'm not sure how much users use the tags within my site, but I find them useful for finding my own posts.  The tag cloud widget also links only to internal posts, and that widget has become pretty popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can actually write your own FeedFlare plugins, so there may not even be a limit to how far you could go with this.  I have seen two different &#8216;Digg this&#8217; plugins, so that may be where they got those from.</p>
<p>I agree that FeedFlare links should be limited and useful to the user.  For instance, even though I use co.mments a lot myself, I don&#8217;t include it in my FeedFlare because I think most users would typically want to add a comment before tracking them.  I also avoid FeedFlare links that apply to the site as a whole (e.g. Add to Technorati Favorites) &#8212; these links should be specific to the post.</p>
<p>However I do use a lot of tags.  It isn&#8217;t just to seed Technorati &#8212; my tags cross-reference topics in my blog.  In fact, the tag links in my feed are links to those tags in my blog, not in Technorati.  On the site itself I include both, in a relatively small font so it hopefully doesn&#8217;t take up too much real estate.  I&#8217;m not sure how much users use the tags within my site, but I find them useful for finding my own posts.  The tag cloud widget also links only to internal posts, and that widget has become pretty popular.</p>
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