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		<title>By: Back in the saddle again -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-229679</link>
		<author>Back in the saddle again -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Which is why it&#8217;s a good thing I didn&#8217;t blog last night. Any angst or ire would have only come through as tearful blubbering. That goes for happy thoughts, too. No need to wail out to everyone in the blogosphere about how much I love you and how much I missed you over the weekend and isn&#8217;t it so cool that two of my favorite bloggers got into an almost heated conversation in my absence. So I spared the world. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Which is why it&#8217;s a good thing I didn&#8217;t blog last night. Any angst or ire would have only come through as tearful blubbering. That goes for happy thoughts, too. No need to wail out to everyone in the blogosphere about how much I love you and how much I missed you over the weekend and isn&#8217;t it so cool that two of my favorite bloggers got into an almost heated conversation in my absence. So I spared the world. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Yan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-228488</link>
		<author>Jack Yan</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a problem with the emails being published by Amanda, as Andrew would have thought they were con&#64257;dential. And since she made that move to go public with them, then I say she added to the drama. We probably will never know the whole truth, but let’s say I would not have played matters their way. I maintain an open mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a problem with the emails being published by Amanda, as Andrew would have thought they were con&#64257;dential. And since she made that move to go public with them, then I say she added to the drama. We probably will never know the whole truth, but let’s say I would not have played matters their way. I maintain an open mind.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Botter</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227893</link>
		<author>J. Botter</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;From my perspective — and from her very own words in her blog post and quoted above — she intentionally neutered her original video message. That’s not being transparent, J, that’s being manipulative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think she neutered her video at all.  She said Andrew wasn't interested in being her partner, and that seems to be the case.  If Andrew's idea of a partnership is him producing, owning, and writing the shows with Amanda simply being the pretty face of the show, then that's really not a partnership at all and I can see exactly why Amanda would say that he's not interested in being her partner.  That's not a partnership, it's a dictatorship, so he really DIDN'T want to be her partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>From my perspective — and from her very own words in her blog post and quoted above — she intentionally neutered her original video message. That’s not being transparent, J, that’s being manipulative.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think she neutered her video at all.  She said Andrew wasn&#8217;t interested in being her partner, and that seems to be the case.  If Andrew&#8217;s idea of a partnership is him producing, owning, and writing the shows with Amanda simply being the pretty face of the show, then that&#8217;s really not a partnership at all and I can see exactly why Amanda would say that he&#8217;s not interested in being her partner.  That&#8217;s not a partnership, it&#8217;s a dictatorship, so he really DIDN&#8217;T want to be her partner.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227779</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227779</guid>
		<description>apotheon/Chad - thanks for reading.

RE: comments &lt;a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060422/3197/"&gt;this past post&lt;/a&gt; might be of interest to you or other readers with blogs interested in receiving more comments on your respective blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apotheon/Chad - thanks for reading.</p>
<p>RE: comments <a href="http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060422/3197/">this past post</a> might be of interest to you or other readers with blogs interested in receiving more comments on your respective blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: SOB: Scion Of Backronymics &#187; Three Arrrs: Registration Requirement Removed</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227754</link>
		<author>SOB: Scion Of Backronymics &#187; Three Arrrs: Registration Requirement Removed</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227754</guid>
		<description>[...] In response to a comment by TDavid in his own Make You Go Hmm weblog, which posted a trackback to my previous remarks on Rocketboom's detonation, wherein he stated that he chose to avoid commenting directly because of the registration requirement: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In response to a comment by TDavid in his own Make You Go Hmm weblog, which posted a trackback to my previous remarks on Rocketboom&#8217;s detonation, wherein he stated that he chose to avoid commenting directly because of the registration requirement: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: apotheon</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227751</link>
		<author>apotheon</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227751</guid>
		<description>This is Chad, author/whatever at SOB, speaking.

In retrospect, my phrasing was probably a trifle more harsh than it needed to be, but I’m of the opinion that in absence of the ability to read the minds of the various participants in this high school drama debacle, the way to view it all is in the best possible light for everyone involved. It’s better, as the wise man said, to assume stupidity than malice: everyone makes stupid mistakes, and assuming malice usually only makes things worse (even if you’re right). I’m going to go with the working assumption that everyone involved just did a piss-poor job of communicating with each other, and made some mistakes in how they handled it publicly, rather than assuming both combatants are prima donnas, one outright lying about transparency and the other about the understandings the two supposedly had, or anything like that. I’m pretty sure they both stretched the truth a little in some way, but with both stretching I think there’s enough room that nobody has necessarily lied.

That aside, I was at least half-serious about what I said they should do: get together in a joint “vlog” production to say that things will be handled, amicably or not, behind closed doors from here on out with the exception of any necessarily public announcements, which will be made at the earliest opportunity — and anything that isn’t announced is nobody’s business but theirs. They should probably finish with a handshake and call it a day, never to appear on-camera together again if need be. A simple “we shouldn’t have said as much as we did, and now we won’t say anything further about it publicly” won’t repair the damage that was done, but there’s no way to do so really without pasting on plastic smiles and lying through their teeth (which runs a substantial risk of further alienating the viewing public), as far as I can tell. It’s time for both of them to cut their losses and run, as ’twere. In fact, perhaps the “brand” should be sh*tcanned, and both should go on to find employment elsewhere. I could be wrong about that, though.

re: registration

That was originally an anti-spam measure. With the implementation of mandatory comment preview before posting, I’m not sure the registration is doing any good any longer in that regard, and as such I’m thinking about tossing it out the window. This is the first complaint I’ve seen about it, but it’s probably indicative of dozens of unvoiced complaints (wild guess). Thanks for saying something, to make it a little more consciously urgent for me to consider the matter.

I’ve been reading some of your material, off and on, via Sterling, and have liked what I’ve seen, by the way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Chad, author/whatever at SOB, speaking.</p>
<p>In retrospect, my phrasing was probably a trifle more harsh than it needed to be, but I’m of the opinion that in absence of the ability to read the minds of the various participants in this high school drama debacle, the way to view it all is in the best possible light for everyone involved. It’s better, as the wise man said, to assume stupidity than malice: everyone makes stupid mistakes, and assuming malice usually only makes things worse (even if you’re right). I’m going to go with the working assumption that everyone involved just did a piss-poor job of communicating with each other, and made some mistakes in how they handled it publicly, rather than assuming both combatants are prima donnas, one outright lying about transparency and the other about the understandings the two supposedly had, or anything like that. I’m pretty sure they both stretched the truth a little in some way, but with both stretching I think there’s enough room that nobody has necessarily lied.</p>
<p>That aside, I was at least half-serious about what I said they should do: get together in a joint “vlog” production to say that things will be handled, amicably or not, behind closed doors from here on out with the exception of any necessarily public announcements, which will be made at the earliest opportunity — and anything that isn’t announced is nobody’s business but theirs. They should probably finish with a handshake and call it a day, never to appear on-camera together again if need be. A simple “we shouldn’t have said as much as we did, and now we won’t say anything further about it publicly” won’t repair the damage that was done, but there’s no way to do so really without pasting on plastic smiles and lying through their teeth (which runs a substantial risk of further alienating the viewing public), as far as I can tell. It’s time for both of them to cut their losses and run, as ’twere. In fact, perhaps the “brand” should be sh*tcanned, and both should go on to find employment elsewhere. I could be wrong about that, though.</p>
<p>re: registration</p>
<p>That was originally an anti-spam measure. With the implementation of mandatory comment preview before posting, I’m not sure the registration is doing any good any longer in that regard, and as such I’m thinking about tossing it out the window. This is the first complaint I’ve seen about it, but it’s probably indicative of dozens of unvoiced complaints (wild guess). Thanks for saying something, to make it a little more consciously urgent for me to consider the matter.</p>
<p>I’ve been reading some of your material, off and on, via Sterling, and have liked what I’ve seen, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227735</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227735</guid>
		<description>In response to Apotheon's trackback. I went to his site and was going to leave this but his comment system requires registration (I rarely will do that), instead I'll ping him back with this:

Apotheon - 

Congon's use of the word "transparent" was a red herring. The point is she didn't need to say that and leave any ambiguity. Words are everything, not something. 

Actually, I agree with everything you said &lt;i&gt;assuming that is what she meant&lt;/i&gt; but since neither you or I can get inside Congdon's head to interpret how she meant the use of that word, it remains open to interpretation.

Therefore I'm sticking with it being disingenious in light of the detailed sequence of events.

She could have simply come on and said: "This is to inform viewers that I will no longer be the host of rocketboom any further effective ___."

End of story. Done.

Better yet it should have been done with Baron on rocketboom, not on her personal site. Or even better, get the as-yet-unnamed replacement on camera with the two partners and make it a smooth transition.

I agree with you that we didn't need to know any more and we certainly didn't need to see personal emails being disclosed, but it was one of those three people who know what's truly going on who chose that path, not anybody who has blogged about it, in a snarky tone or otherwise. I'm not sure why Dave pointed the barrel at bloggers. Frankly, I'm weary of that type of deflection.

Somebody is lying here, one either was fired or quit and though I'd agree it's not our business, it's now out here for people to choose to believe one, the other or neither. It didn't have to go this way simply by an even more neutral statement than "he doesn't want to be my partner any more." Who chose that path? Why?

Talk about brand implosion. Sterling was right, this is sad. But there are a number of useful business lessons to learn here if one looks past the accident scene.

It's too bad you chose not to run with my last sentence which was if you were their advisor, what would you advise them to do now?

That's the most important thing right now for rocketboom.com and the parties involved. The longer this he said, she said garbage continues the more damage to the brand and potentially the careers of the participants.

That's why I'm not blogging about it any more until there is a resolution or significant change. I said my piece. I'm glad you said yours. That's what makes this medium useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Apotheon&#8217;s trackback. I went to his site and was going to leave this but his comment system requires registration (I rarely will do that), instead I&#8217;ll ping him back with this:</p>
<p>Apotheon - </p>
<p>Congon&#8217;s use of the word &#8220;transparent&#8221; was a red herring. The point is she didn&#8217;t need to say that and leave any ambiguity. Words are everything, not something. </p>
<p>Actually, I agree with everything you said <i>assuming that is what she meant</i> but since neither you or I can get inside Congdon&#8217;s head to interpret how she meant the use of that word, it remains open to interpretation.</p>
<p>Therefore I&#8217;m sticking with it being disingenious in light of the detailed sequence of events.</p>
<p>She could have simply come on and said: &#8220;This is to inform viewers that I will no longer be the host of rocketboom any further effective ___.&#8221;</p>
<p>End of story. Done.</p>
<p>Better yet it should have been done with Baron on rocketboom, not on her personal site. Or even better, get the as-yet-unnamed replacement on camera with the two partners and make it a smooth transition.</p>
<p>I agree with you that we didn&#8217;t need to know any more and we certainly didn&#8217;t need to see personal emails being disclosed, but it was one of those three people who know what&#8217;s truly going on who chose that path, not anybody who has blogged about it, in a snarky tone or otherwise. I&#8217;m not sure why Dave pointed the barrel at bloggers. Frankly, I&#8217;m weary of that type of deflection.</p>
<p>Somebody is lying here, one either was fired or quit and though I&#8217;d agree it&#8217;s not our business, it&#8217;s now out here for people to choose to believe one, the other or neither. It didn&#8217;t have to go this way simply by an even more neutral statement than &#8220;he doesn&#8217;t want to be my partner any more.&#8221; Who chose that path? Why?</p>
<p>Talk about brand implosion. Sterling was right, this is sad. But there are a number of useful business lessons to learn here if one looks past the accident scene.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad you chose not to run with my last sentence which was if you were their advisor, what would you advise them to do now?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the most important thing right now for rocketboom.com and the parties involved. The longer this he said, she said garbage continues the more damage to the brand and potentially the careers of the participants.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not blogging about it any more until there is a resolution or significant change. I said my piece. I&#8217;m glad you said yours. That&#8217;s what makes this medium useful.</p>
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		<title>By: SOB: Scion Of Backronymics</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227688</link>
		<author>SOB: Scion Of Backronymics</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-227688</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Okay, fine, I'll comment on Rocketboom.&lt;/strong&gt;

What a mess &#8212; what a bunch of high school drama queen nonsense this is.
Rocketboom blew up.  There's a gen-u-ine he-said/she-said set of (apparently) incompatible statements being made by Amanda Congdon and Andrew Baron (the apparent 49% and 51%...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Okay, fine, I&#8217;ll comment on Rocketboom.</strong></p>
<p>What a mess &#8212; what a bunch of high school drama queen nonsense this is.<br />
Rocketboom blew up.  There&#8217;s a gen-u-ine he-said/she-said set of (apparently) incompatible statements being made by Amanda Congdon and Andrew Baron (the apparent 49% and 51%&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: skeet</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-226984</link>
		<author>skeet</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you hear Andrew on the TWIT podcast from a couple weeks ago?  I highly doubt they were dating, as I dont think he dates girls.  He also came across as an arrogant a**hole, and the type that would throw a hissy fit if he didnt get his way in the slightest.  to be honest, I have only watched rocketboom a couple times at most, and I could care less who is right or wrong, but that andrew is a headcase.
skeet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you hear Andrew on the TWIT podcast from a couple weeks ago?  I highly doubt they were dating, as I dont think he dates girls.  He also came across as an arrogant a**hole, and the type that would throw a hissy fit if he didnt get his way in the slightest.  to be honest, I have only watched rocketboom a couple times at most, and I could care less who is right or wrong, but that andrew is a headcase.<br />
skeet</p>
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		<title>By: Boom doom -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060706/3539/#comment-224230</link>
		<author>Boom doom -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Whatever happened between Amanda and Andrew, it&#8217;s just sad. That&#8217;s all I have to say.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Whatever happened between Amanda and Andrew, it&#8217;s just sad. That&#8217;s all I have to say.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [&#8230;]</p>
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