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	<title>Comments on: Hawk flies to Zooomr, hopefully to extract awkward third &#8216;o&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-187240</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who follow Cameron's link above and are interested in more about Zooomr:

- Hawk is on around 18:00 in podcast and runs to approximately 31:00
- Hawk is still working in the financials services industry full time, thus answering my question in the post (thanks Cameron)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who follow Cameron&#8217;s link above and are interested in more about Zooomr:</p>
<p>- Hawk is on around 18:00 in podcast and runs to approximately 31:00<br />
- Hawk is still working in the financials services industry full time, thus answering my question in the post (thanks Cameron)</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-187103</link>
		<author>Cameron Reilly</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-187103</guid>
		<description>I did a podcast with Thomas today talking about his new role. &lt;a href="http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com"&gt;Check it out. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a podcast with Thomas today talking about his new role. <a href="http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com">Check it out. </a></p>
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		<title>By: hash</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-186840</link>
		<author>hash</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to your post and the TechCrunch one, I decided to give Zooomr a try.  I really like it so far, but I'm trying to decide if it's worth abandoning my Flickr account?  I'd really like to have only one place to manage my photos online, and Flickr has been it for me.  However, the additional functions that I've found on Zooomr are more appealing.

By the way, the registration process is HORRIBLE.  Please, please, make it easier and more sensible.  This OpenID stuff is useless to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to your post and the TechCrunch one, I decided to give Zooomr a try.  I really like it so far, but I&#8217;m trying to decide if it&#8217;s worth abandoning my Flickr account?  I&#8217;d really like to have only one place to manage my photos online, and Flickr has been it for me.  However, the additional functions that I&#8217;ve found on Zooomr are more appealing.</p>
<p>By the way, the registration process is HORRIBLE.  Please, please, make it easier and more sensible.  This OpenID stuff is useless to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Camden</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-186828</link>
		<author>Sterling Camden</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another entertaining and detailed product review, TD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another entertaining and detailed product review, TD.</p>
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		<title>By: TDavid</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-186783</link>
		<author>TDavid</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-186783</guid>
		<description>Feel free to stop back by here when you guys go 2.0 and let me know and I'll take another look, Tom. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free to stop back by here when you guys go 2.0 and let me know and I&#8217;ll take another look, Tom. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-186696</link>
		<author>Thomas Hawk</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20060620/3466/#comment-186696</guid>
		<description>Hi TDavid.  Thanks so much for stopping by Zooomr and checking out the site.  It's much appreciated.  The site is very beta right now.  Very much an almost daily work in progress.  The launch of 2.0 will bring some pretty cool features though early next month.  Specfic things to make you care would be pretty advanced search technology.  Much wider community tools, etc.  Although today Zooomr has a number of great features that distinguish it from Flickr already.  One that I like a lot is that whenever your photo is blogged it will show you where it was blogged on the photo.  They also have Zooomrations which enhance the photo experience for those that would like to add an audio annotation to the photo.  Check this link out to see this.  Just click on the play button next to the zooomration.  http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/kris_tate/37777

Yes, these are probably more toys than hardcore features, but expect to see these in Version 2.0 and beyond.  Kris gets features easily and Zooomr will be the most feature rich photosharing site on the service, which you are right will appeal to the early adopters like you and I but the challenge will be to make these features relevent to the masses as well.

The picture trackback is automatic but still needs to be cleaned up a bit.  But it will track all the referrering urls to your photo to give you a sense of where your photo is being shown off zooomr and out on the web.  This has been a frequently requested feature that flickr doesn't have.  Check out this photo of mine and look beneath it.  Again, not elegant enough yet but functional for now to be cleaned up later and much better than trying to track down where your photos are being shown offsite with tools like Technorati which do not work well with Flickr today.  http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/thomashawk/59957

Also note that the photo link above has been geotagged.  You can see on the Google map to the right exactly where it was taken on a map.  This will be a super helpful tool in building community as you begin to see those locally who live around you that have also geotagged their images.

The multiple level log on is a problem and we are working on that.  I'm glad the Google alternative worked for you.

We are working out the referrer account details right now and should have this down by version 2.0.  We are also figuring out the best policy for upgrading certain pro/am type photographers to Pro.  We are really excited by some of what these individuals are doing out there and definitely want them to be a part of Zooomr.

I guess the only thing to say about the third O in Zooomr is that if I had a nickel for everytime I've had to correct someone to get to flickr to *not* include the "e" in flickr, I'd be a rich man.  Yes, the missing "e" and the extra "o" make things even doubly problematic for Zooomr.  But hey, we like a challenge.  Hopefully what gets built is compelling enough to overcome this hurdle as flickr overcame the hurdle of their missing "e".  Maybe it's just stupid.  I don't know, we'll figure it out though. 

The Help/FAQ section definitely needs upgrading.  We're working on this.  It was just one guy and a beta, now it's two guys and a beta.  

I'll talk to Kris about multiple style sheets for the blog.  We're going to do a lot with the blog and use it to highlight a lot of the very best photographers on Zooomr.

There is a lot of work to do with related tags and we are doing some even more exciting stuff with Zooomr actually recommending tags for you in version 2.0.  Recommendative tagging will allow richer and richer meta data which will result in better and better search for your photos.  Again, something that we don't have yet but will have shortly, but that is not being done elsewhere that I know of.

I really appreciate your taking the time to check out the service TDavid.  Your feedback is very valuable for helping us get this thing right.  It's moving very very fast.  I hope you give it a try again with version 2.0 due out next month.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TDavid.  Thanks so much for stopping by Zooomr and checking out the site.  It&#8217;s much appreciated.  The site is very beta right now.  Very much an almost daily work in progress.  The launch of 2.0 will bring some pretty cool features though early next month.  Specfic things to make you care would be pretty advanced search technology.  Much wider community tools, etc.  Although today Zooomr has a number of great features that distinguish it from Flickr already.  One that I like a lot is that whenever your photo is blogged it will show you where it was blogged on the photo.  They also have Zooomrations which enhance the photo experience for those that would like to add an audio annotation to the photo.  Check this link out to see this.  Just click on the play button next to the zooomration.  <a href="http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/kris_tate/37777">http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/kris_tate/37777</a></p>
<p>Yes, these are probably more toys than hardcore features, but expect to see these in Version 2.0 and beyond.  Kris gets features easily and Zooomr will be the most feature rich photosharing site on the service, which you are right will appeal to the early adopters like you and I but the challenge will be to make these features relevent to the masses as well.</p>
<p>The picture trackback is automatic but still needs to be cleaned up a bit.  But it will track all the referrering urls to your photo to give you a sense of where your photo is being shown off zooomr and out on the web.  This has been a frequently requested feature that flickr doesn&#8217;t have.  Check out this photo of mine and look beneath it.  Again, not elegant enough yet but functional for now to be cleaned up later and much better than trying to track down where your photos are being shown offsite with tools like Technorati which do not work well with Flickr today.  <a href="http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/thomashawk/59957">http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/thomashawk/59957</a></p>
<p>Also note that the photo link above has been geotagged.  You can see on the Google map to the right exactly where it was taken on a map.  This will be a super helpful tool in building community as you begin to see those locally who live around you that have also geotagged their images.</p>
<p>The multiple level log on is a problem and we are working on that.  I&#8217;m glad the Google alternative worked for you.</p>
<p>We are working out the referrer account details right now and should have this down by version 2.0.  We are also figuring out the best policy for upgrading certain pro/am type photographers to Pro.  We are really excited by some of what these individuals are doing out there and definitely want them to be a part of Zooomr.</p>
<p>I guess the only thing to say about the third O in Zooomr is that if I had a nickel for everytime I&#8217;ve had to correct someone to get to flickr to *not* include the &#8220;e&#8221; in flickr, I&#8217;d be a rich man.  Yes, the missing &#8220;e&#8221; and the extra &#8220;o&#8221; make things even doubly problematic for Zooomr.  But hey, we like a challenge.  Hopefully what gets built is compelling enough to overcome this hurdle as flickr overcame the hurdle of their missing &#8220;e&#8221;.  Maybe it&#8217;s just stupid.  I don&#8217;t know, we&#8217;ll figure it out though. </p>
<p>The Help/FAQ section definitely needs upgrading.  We&#8217;re working on this.  It was just one guy and a beta, now it&#8217;s two guys and a beta.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll talk to Kris about multiple style sheets for the blog.  We&#8217;re going to do a lot with the blog and use it to highlight a lot of the very best photographers on Zooomr.</p>
<p>There is a lot of work to do with related tags and we are doing some even more exciting stuff with Zooomr actually recommending tags for you in version 2.0.  Recommendative tagging will allow richer and richer meta data which will result in better and better search for your photos.  Again, something that we don&#8217;t have yet but will have shortly, but that is not being done elsewhere that I know of.</p>
<p>I really appreciate your taking the time to check out the service TDavid.  Your feedback is very valuable for helping us get this thing right.  It&#8217;s moving very very fast.  I hope you give it a try again with version 2.0 due out next month.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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