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March 24, 2006

Feeling dirty or clean after using Feed Rinse

customer adventures, blogs and podcasting, finance — by TDavid @ 11:43 am PST
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cleanse RSS feeds so you only read what you want to see

This morning I checked out Feed Rinse. I actually registered last night but for some reason it kept telling me I needed to upgrade when trying to rinse one feed and upgrade wasn’t possible as it was a “coming soon” feature.

The idea behind Feed Rinse is you can take a feed and filter it for only the things you are interested in. At Hmm, you can already do this without using Feedrinse by running a keyword search and subscribing to the RSS feed, so you can imagine that I’m supportive of a program like this.

What I suspect it will be used mostly for is stripping out single RSS posts with ads (and it is effective at doing that, keep reading), so I would suggest to folks who are running ads to make sure they include them at the bottom or integrate into their posts which will make it more difficult to filter out using this program.

For example, one of the feeds I read has an ad as a single post every couple of posts with no other value. It’s always the same sized-ad and it gets old real fast considering in my reblog reader I have to click or use a keyboard combo to continually archive this same tired ad. For a demo I ran that feed through Feedrinse and used the keywords (they’re always the same) for this ad and Feedrinse created a feed that filtered out that ad.

Feedrinse plans to make money by limiting the number of filter criteria per feed. For a free account 3 filters are allowed, $5/month will get 20 filters and $8/month will get 300 filters.

cleanse RSS feeds so you only see what you want to see

One problem I see is just as Feed Rinse is circumventing the RSS feed publishers wishes by allowing filtering within their feeds, users of Feed Rinse could sign up for multiple accounts and get additional feed filters. I’m not sure how or if they’ve taken that into account (I didn’t test), but they should be on alert that this could happen.

Also the feeds aren’t blocked in anyway so somebody else could set up a third party Feedrinsed RSS feed sharing service so that feeds that were filtered already could be linked up (and thus circumvent the need to sign up for an account to rinse the same feeds for the same criteria). This could also cause some problems for the parent Feed Rinse service as the RSS feed owners get pissed about their ads being stripped out and Feed Rinse (potentially) making money off their content for the service. I don’t see the logic in RSS feed publishers being upset about allowing their readers to get posts with only certain keywords in it, but I can see their concern if the ads are being completely stripped. Slippery slope.

We don’t run ads in RSS feeds at this time but we’ve considered doing this someday if the right program comes along (something not invasive and worthwhile). Since we already allow readers to create keyword filters by RSS feed — and get them straight from us — I don’t see any harm/foul from Feedrinse, but for those publishers who don’t want their ads stripped out they may want to look at how ads are being incorporating into feeds and not separate them in posts with the same text every time so that they are easily identified and filtered by services like Feed Rinse. It should be fairly trivial programatically to throw in dynamic components so that the ads don’t always appear with the same boilerplate text.

Finally, I wonder if Feed Rinse users will feel dirty stripping out advertisement posts from their favorite blogs or if they’ll have a clean conscience just like using Greasemonkey or Norton Anti-spam? What do you think?

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RSS Feed comments for this post 9 Comments »

  1. I have Multiple Personality Disorder on this one (nod to Tom Friedemann’s The World is Flat). The “free information” me says if you put content in an RSS feed, you’re making it available in a form that invites transformations like this, so any way the user wants to view your content should be legal. On the other hand, the “power to the little people” me says advertising helps to fund a lot of small enterprises, especially bloggers, and helps to keep on-line services and information sources free. Finally, the “publisher” in me would feel a bit cheated if part of my content was stripped, especially if somebody else was making money doing so.

    On the fence (ouch)

    Comment by Sterling Camden — March 24, 2006 @ 2:23 pm PST

  2. RSS filter products

    Filtering is one of my hot topics in 2006. It’s the next step from aggregation, because many of us now have too much information coming at us. Let’s face it, even with your favourite blogs or websites, you don’t want…

    Trackback by Read/WriteWeb — April 2, 2006 @ 5:19 pm PST

  3. Hi,
    Another rss filtering / mixing tool that you might want to consider is www.atiki.com
    It relaunched this morning so there’s a few bits and pieces that need to be corrected, but I hope you’ll find it useful…
    Thanks !

    Comment by Pierre — April 3, 2006 @ 11:04 am PST

  4. Pierre - I liked this quote: “A large consumption of feeds can be bad for your health” but then I read your blog entry that said: So here we go, atiki is back up again - don’t know for how long though ! (btw if someone has a good hosting provider to suggest please feel free to post a comment)

    No offense, but service not worth time looking at when the official blog admits the hosting is sketchy. Good hosting recommendation: Cyberwurx.

    Comment by TDavid — April 3, 2006 @ 11:12 am PST

  5. At least I’m honest ;)
    I had a look at your recommandation, you should ask them for some affiliation money since I’ll probably take a dedicated server with them… Thanks !

    Then maybe you can have a look at atiki, the worst that can happen to you is that you loose 5 minutes of your precious time :)

    Comment by Pierre — April 3, 2006 @ 1:30 pm PST

  6. Pierre - I have multiple dedicated servers with them. Just mention my name and you might even save a few bucks. I’ve done business with them since 1999.

    Comment by TDavid — April 3, 2006 @ 1:36 pm PST

  7. 0k, I’ll let you know how it goes… Although I might take something with 1&1 as they have a very good offer in france at the moment (they’re trying to win some business over here at the moment…)

    Comment by Pierre — April 3, 2006 @ 2:29 pm PST

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