No more Motion M1400 batteries after 2007 |
I just read this Tablet PC Buzz thread where users are talking about the M1400 (which I bought in December 2004) is being obsoleted by the LE1600 (which will probably be obsoleted a year from now too). alltp writes:
The M1400 is officially “end of life” and Motion has sold out of their stock. Some product still exists in the channel (distributors and resellers), but it is probably only a couple hundred units. Even the accessories are disappearing quickly, although in another post paul from Motion said they would still make the batteries until 2008.
Obsoletion is a computer reality and I anticipated and expected a quicker, better, faster model would come along, I get that. Personally I do not think the LE1600 is significantly better than the M1400 and have also already written that I think it is overpriced. Still, I suspect Motion will come out with a better version at a better price within the next 12-18 months that will really obsolete the M1400 and the LE1600. Just don’t think that has happened yet.
I just called Motion Computing support (1-866-322-9783) 8/10/05 2:55pm PST and talked to *Bill* and told him about this situation and asked to verify whether or not M1400 batteries would continue to be produced after 2007 as well as the official support status for the M1400.
Seems like that post from Paul who works for Motion is, in fact, accurate. At least according to Bill.
Bill came back and told me that they will no longer produce any of the M1400 accessories including the battery after December 31, 2007. So the computer I bought in December 2004 (exactly 240 days ago, as I write this) currently has no official plans to have batteries for it three years later.
That blows.
If this turns out to be true, I will not ever buy another computer from Motion Computing. I told Bill to pass that along to the higher ups that they need to have at least a third party option for batteries.
So often existing and past customers get crapped on by businesses and the emphasis seems to be more on acquiring new customers. There’s an old saying I picked up in sales: when the prospecting ends, decay begins, so I understand and agree that new customers are important, but you can’t forget about and/or abandon the existing/past ones in the process. That’s just wrong and foolish considering the most likely candidate to purchase a new machine is somebody who already has bought one! They know what they are getting. Know the support. Know the company.
Duh.
Therefore, it’s my opinion that Motion should continue to make batteries for at least 10 years after the date they stop selling a product or allow third parties to make batteries. Bill seemed to believe that Motion “would not leave its customers high and dry.”
Hopefully, Bill is right.
Even though it is unlikely I’ll be using the M1400 portably for 10 years or even 5 years, the fact that they are planning on forcing me not to by not making batteries for it at that time is very anti-customer and seriously turns me off to their company.
And I like the M1400 Tablet PC. I think it’s a beautiful machine. I haven’t had any bad experience with the hardware or the support. I’ve called them only two times and both conversations were not even that related to current support issues. They were extremely polite, courteous and respectful. I’ve got no issues with Motion.
In 2005, that is.
And yes I absolutely do realize that there will be a much better Tablet PC computer on the market by January 1, 2008 (maybe Apple will have one by then?) but I don’t see many folks, especially those who bought the M1400 new in 2006, being all that psyched about the possibility of not being able to buy a replacement battery … somewhere, some place, some how.
I suppose if you buy a couple of them in December 2007, you’ll be good for another couple years. I don’t know how long the M1400 batteries last. Mine is still doing good, but my guess is no more than a couple years, even if one takes very good care of the battery.
I still use my Sony VAIO that was purchased in 2000 and that’s five years old. No, not that much admittedly, but it is still really in use on our home network. As a matter of fact the battery is shot in the VAIO so I need to buy another, so we’re not using that portably any more and haven’t for at least a year. Although we did take it on our vacation last month and had to keep it plugged into the cigarette power inverter. Something tells me that I can still buy a replacement battery from Sony for that, though. I will have to check. If Sony doesn’t have it, then hopefully a third party does.
Motion: Grrr.
In Motion’s defense, I fully expected my M1400 purchase to last 24-36 months and that should still be within the 2007 timeframe. Again, I am sure there will be something drastically better by 2008, but still, one can buy a beater vehicle for $2,500 and get at least 5-10 years of part time use out of it with proper maintenance and care. The same should hold for a brand new Motion Tablet PC, shouldn’t it?
Please, especially if you are a Motion customer call support and tell them that they should continue to support making batteries or allowing some third party vendor to do so for at least 10 years. Write something on your blog and trackback it, complain! The squeaky wheels get the grease, so don’t just sit back and say: who cares, I’ll have a much better machine in 2008. Don’t let the computer you bought a couple months ago be non-portable in a couple years. How good is a Tablet PC slate, really, if it isn’t portable?
Man I hope Bill from Motion support is right. Bummer.
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[…] - Overweight. Most are heavier than the tablet I bought a year ago! Mobility is very important and if it isn’t lighter and easier to carry around than my existing tablet then it would be a downgrade, not an upgrade. The LE1600 from Motion is one of the new crop of lighter tablets, but it took out a few things I liked in the M1400 and it didn’t improve on standard specs (see next post). Oh, and did I mention that I’m still disappointed that Motion plans to stop making batteries and other accesories in just two short years? They need to extend that to 2010 at least. Some people bought M1400’s new from them this last summer 2005! - Still overpriced. Yes the price has come down somewhat within the last 12 months and finally more retail presence. But let’s be real here, we’re still nowhere close to Bill Gate’s vision of the $500 tablet (admittedly, Gates said this would take “awhile”). With lowend laptops starting to push down beneath $500 and some pretty good laptops in the $750-$1,250 range, the tablet is still overpriced at the common $1,500 price point, with high quality slates still ringing in at $2,000+ with standard features. - Inadequate standard memory and disk space. Come on, manufacturers, stop penny pinching your customers with accessory options and include more standard hard disk space and memory. Yeah, you can upgrade, but that’s wrong for a machine that will set you back over two grand. 100GB hard disk and 1GB RAM should be the standard but that’s not the case with any of the new model tablets, you’ll have to pay more. - Murky Vista specs. Since Vista isn’t actually out yet — only beta — it’s hard to really know what impact this will have on a new tablet purchase outside of taking the manufacturer’s, Microsoft or beta tester’s word. It would really suck shelling out 2-3+ grand only to find out that in 9-12 months that the machine isn’t going to be truly Vista ready. And the next version of the Vista beta that has been shown has already been delayed another couple months which makes things even more of a guessing game. What we do know — or at least have been told — is that Vista will include the Tablet PC OS, thus meaning that in the future every laptop will have tablet capability. The only (vital) missing component would be the digitizer/screen. How this will actually be useful to anybody, I’m curious to learn. […]
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It’s not when they stop making them, its when the stocks run out.
Why not buy a couple in January 2008 to see you through till 2010? Although I will move to a new tablet after 2 to 3 years (I bought my M1400 the same time as you did), I fully expect my (currently 8 year old) daughter to continue using it as her own once I have moved on.
Comment by Neil Burnett — January 10, 2006 @ 4:17 am PST
Neil, you are correct, and we do plan to buy at least one in December 2007. Still, I hope somebody else comes along and picks up the battery production or that using a third party battery service for rejuicing the cells is an option.
Comment by TDavid — January 10, 2006 @ 10:39 am PST
This might be one possible solution from APC: http://www.upsgalaxy.com/showroom/2865.cfm#Features
A Universal Notebook battery, min 80w capacity. About 250 bones, but food for thought.
Comment by TDavid — January 13, 2006 @ 10:57 am PST
Just bought a M-1400 on BAY .Any idea of how to get 3 cell battery at reasonable price?
Comment by Bruce Eliot — April 1, 2006 @ 6:30 pm PST
Imagine having 50 M1400’s and about 150 batteries that are all approaching 3 years old today, and they’re all starting to fizzle out and die. I’m JUST NOW finding out that Motion is not going to make batteries for the units. I had no idea, I mean, *why* would a manufacture stop making batteries for a computer they just stopped selling in September 2005, 2 years ago. Yeah, this sucks, and I’m letting Motion know it.
Comment by Ben — October 11, 2007 @ 6:23 am PST
Yeah, it sucks, Ben, but try the other battery resources mentioned above. Maybe somebody else can help. Best of luck.
Comment by TDavid — October 11, 2007 @ 9:16 am PST
You can still find batteries for the M1400 from several sources. Here are just a few:
http://www.laptopbatterybbs.com/GATEWAY/lwgateway03t1.php
http://www.batteryrefill.com/laptops/gateway/m1200.phtml
http://www.battery-for-laptop.com/laptop_battery.php?pid=693
http://www.batteryfast.com/gateway/bat0016.php
Comment by Roger Gustavsson — January 8, 2008 @ 11:50 pm PST
Another good battery source is
http://www.batterytex.com
They have a wide selection of batteries and they might be able to help you. Hope this helps.
Comment by Liza — May 23, 2008 @ 11:28 am PST
Another good battery source is
http://www.laptop-notebook-battery.org
They have a wide selection of batteries and they might be able to help you. Hope this helps.
Comment by ketty1984 — July 27, 2008 @ 6:48 am PST