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November 6, 2004

No vendor pitching rule at Bloggercon III causes commotion

default — by TDavid @ 9:01 pm PST

I’m listening to the live BloggerCon feed on making money with blogs and these are my notes:

- tip jars not doing much, except for a couple special cases
- Dave Winer: bloggers shouldn’t go after the pennies and dimes with (advertising on their blog). He believes it is best used for networking and doing quid pro quo with linking and creating ideas for projects to make money from, but not making money from the blog itself
- Chris Nolan wants to be paid for her writing on her blog
- Andy Abramsen: how all the big aggregators have come to him wanting him to blog for them and he asks them to show him the contracts and money and they disappear into the woodwork.
- A writer comments that he wrote a book that sold for $40 on Amazon and his cut for the sale of each book, as the author, was $2.50 but if he used Amazon to link from his blog the affiliate’s commission was twice that. The room roared.
- another commenter says he has made “hundreds and thousands” from creating product support blogs. He gives an example of an author with a book who has a blog that promotes that book
- complaints about inferior Wi-Fi reception (hear this all the time at tech conventions, and it’s not just BloggerCon)

Dave Winer came under a little fire in the wrap-up segment about the rules set for the no pitching products/services/URLs policy.  Crowd was booing at one point and it was noticeable they wanted to move on. Definitely some awkward timing there, and Dave said that his wish was this not to be bone of contention for BloggerCon IV.

Though I didn’t hear the stream on it from comments made in the last segment it sounded like Dave Sifry might have broken the BloggerCon rule of “no vendor pitching” over announcing a new update (Dave Sifry last stopped by here, so maybe he’ll stop by again and explain his side of what happened since I wasn’t there and there are two sides to every story) and that along with or in addition to somebody named “Bob” who didn’t pitch a product (and passionately said he didn’t) caused some unrest in the crowd over the no vendor pitching rule. Apparently the no vendor pitching rule was too gray for some folks, but Dave Winer felt strongly that it was made more than clear that this was a user conference not a vendor conference and those kind of vendor pitches were not allowed.

A good suggestion on adding an IRC rep to the event to capture that chat side of Bloggercon and allow for more interaction with.

Overall, it sounded like a good conference and I really appreciate the ability to listen to it LIVE streaming over the web. Thank you Doug from IT Conversations and to Dave Winer and Standford and for all the other people who made this event possible for the rest of us who were back here in our bunkers and not able to attend. I’m sure there will be a lot of post BloggerCon juice coming out. For those interested in more, they might want to keep an eye on this through Feedster and other similar services.

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  1. Hi, great write up. Basically it was a tempest in a teapot. Dave made his rules for the conference, so he gets to decide what is a pitch. It’s not a big deal.

    BTW, I found you through the improved Technorati keyword search, looking for my name. :-)

    Keep up the good work!

    Dave

    Comment by David Sifry — November 7, 2004 @ 3:48 am PST

  2. RE: Chris wanting to get paid for her blog. It’s an amazing blog, she’s a great writer, but politics is a horrible topic for publishing businesses (check George magazine).

    With little traffic these type of blogs are not going to make any serious money, so she should use it to a) get a book deal, b) get TV work, c) get consulting gigs, d) get freelance writing work, etc. That is, use it for marketing!

    We haven’t done any political blogs at Weblogs, Inc. — they are just not good for business. Sure DailyKos got insane traffic, and it make 20k a month for a couple of months, but it is going to be hard for more then a couple of people to reach that level. That level will also be a peak a couple of months a year.

    Sad, but true. Some writing just doesn’t make big money (i.e. poetry).

    Comment by Jason — November 7, 2004 @ 2:15 pm PST


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